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Removes Build Your Own shuttle, bannable to use it #21949

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🆑 Ausops
del: Removes the build-a-shuttle from the game.
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https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8761

Might as well remove it, can't have players getting banned for improper escalation by buying it.

If I can't buy the build-a-shuttle as the guy in charge of building things with the intent to proceed to build a shuttle without getting banned for defending myself while building the shuttle, why should I keep the shuttle in the game?

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8761

Might as well remove it, can't have players getting banned for improper escalation by buying it.
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uh oh spaghettio

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ma44 commented Dec 5, 2016

You can make compress matter in cargo with the autolathe, there's literally no need for the guy to haul ass to science and getting his ass beaten by the RD

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Iamgoofball commented Dec 5, 2016

@ma44 Apparently the build-a-shuttle was the source of the escalation, therefore being the initial cause of the ban.

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@ma44

There is a public autolathe outside of RD on meta

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Saegrimr commented Dec 5, 2016

Remember last time Goofball pulled this and dumped a shitton of logs trying to make me look worse than I already make myself look?

[18:27:50] (Iamgoofball) https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8761
[18:27:52] (Iamgoofball) is there more to this story
[18:27:59] (Iamgoofball) because this seems really fucking weird for a perma
[18:32:57] (Saegrimr) He earns a note nearly every day he actually logs in, and each one of them is for banbaiting.
[18:33:25] (Saegrimr) Or at least for starting shit and complaining when shit gets back at him.
[18:33:35] (Saegrimr) And one for spamming.
[18:33:36] (Saegrimr) ┐('~`;)┌
[18:34:33] (Iamgoofball) yeah, but buying the build a shuttle as the guy in charge of building things with intentions to build a thing doesn't really seem like starting shit. Eh, whatever, I'll just remove it.
[18:34:51] (Iamgoofball) also when did ausops come back
[18:35:06] (Saegrimr) I have no idea honestly
[18:35:35] (Saegrimr) Also )removing features when someone does something shitty using it
[18:35:43] (Saegrimr) You're really trying to become the biggest meme around aren't you?
[18:37:01] (Iamgoofball) how is buying the build a shuttle as the job in charge of building things then getting banned while building the shuttle shitty
[18:37:46] (Saegrimr) )Last act was buying the BYO shuttle as non-antag CE after the captain told him not to. Captain agreed to the RD arresting the CE, the RD tried to and the CE pushed the RD off the station z-level. Baiting players into escalations after the starting conflict is not tolerated.
[18:37:54] * Saegrimr has kicked Iamgoofball from #supportbus (Iamgoofball)

REMOVE GOOFBALL

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ma44 commented Dec 5, 2016

So if i go and build a shuttle, I will also get my ass beaten up by a RD, throw him into spess so I can build my happy little shuttle.

Also this person has some notes already from previous days.

Quoting from the 2nd post, "That admin has just placed a note on you saying to ban you for your next infraction, whatever it might be, and this is on top of previous notes accrued in the last few days."

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it's a goof tries to fan the flames and start drama episode

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@Aloraydrel just trying to make sure players dont get banned for using gameplay features~~~

Why is buying the build-a-shuttle as the job in charge of building stuff then defending yourself when trying to build that shuttle an infraction?

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ma44 commented Dec 5, 2016

If someone walks in and starts printing shit that I don't want them to I will beat their ass

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ma44 its a fucking public lathe its not in fucking science

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Iamgoofball commented Dec 5, 2016

you guys are getting side tracked

the ban reason clearly states

Last act was buying the BYO shuttle as non-antag CE after the captain told him not to.

this was the infraction he got banned for,

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Saegrimr commented Dec 5, 2016

You're a fucking idiot if you stop there and use that to justify your meme PR.

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It's the origin of the escalation, annd the "last straw" for the player. Being penalized by admins for using features we give them regardless of what Saeg "i dont actually enjoy or play the game" rimr thinks is wrong.

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Saegrimr commented Dec 5, 2016

Try again, dumbass.

Baiting players into escalations after the starting conflict is not tolerated.

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The origin of the escalation was the purchase of the build-a-shuttle. If he hadn't bought that, all this shit wouldn't of happened.

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Saegrimr commented Dec 5, 2016

The origin of a lot of escalation is assistant, stunprods, toolbelts, and batons. Better go remove that too.

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Remember how we keep trying to remove that shit?

Remember when cancerous fucks like yourself didn't ban people to enforce rules that exist for the sake of existing?

@WJohn WJohn added the Removal This was too fun, too fun! I'm turning this feature around label Dec 5, 2016
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Saegrimr commented Dec 5, 2016

ausop's ban

Run for headmin and change them.

oh wait

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No, denied, this is not 'X caused Y to get banned so remove it' and we don't accept that reasoning anyway; see toxins for prime example.

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Iamgoofball commented Dec 5, 2016

Yes it is, I'm reopening the PR. The source cause of the escalation was the shuttle purchase.

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Saegrimr commented Dec 5, 2016

Gitban when

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@Saegrimr When you actually play the game and enjoy it.

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in about 30 fucking seconds

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JJRcop commented Dec 5, 2016

Goofball please listen to me in IRC you're not getting things straight. Sorry @optimumtact for posting in the PR but he isn't responding to me

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One straight up point is that given that the ship is already exposed to space, it needs time to be depressurised, built with fixtures and machinery installed and made safe, which depending on the amount of people doing it & outsourcing the materials (tech boards from science etc, minerals from mining) and labour at tops can take 10 mins out of a possible 40 mins to get ready

Which often if not in extended is not a issue, as antags will greif it basically resetting your work and severely limiting you ability to complete it, resulting in a shoddy incomplete deathtrap you are STUCK WITH when all the other better priced shoddy ships are serviceable.

Its pretty much a case that if you want easy antag to kill everyone on the shuttle, call the DIY shuttle (which arrives instantly and denies actually ready shuttles) and just leave it on a round with no active/non-murdered competent engineers and everyone will die if you take measures to deny the pods as means to escape.

The captain in all likelyhood didn't want to have to have everyone on board wearing a space suit because the pressure is still ass or to have to have a open canister blowing space wind over everything.

Give us the option for a point penalty and a small recall cooldown to swap out the build it yourself shuttle for another one so we aren't stuck with it.

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CPTANT commented Dec 5, 2016

"Baiting players into escalations after the starting conflict is not tolerated."

Well this seems to be some serious bullshit in the context of that ban....

Buying a shuttle is "starting a conflict" now?

Kek.

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jughu commented Dec 5, 2016

Just make this roundstart only like station charter so they dont buy it when the shuttle is arrivering

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jughu commented Dec 5, 2016

OH I FORGOT TO MEME

why u so mad? Its just a game

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