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Organs for catgirls #28148

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@Expletive Expletive commented Jun 6, 2017

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balance: Cat ears now give you double the ear damage.
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Now you can surgically remove a catgirl's ears/tail.

The ear organ gives you double ear damage

@tgstation-server tgstation-server added the Feature Exposes new bugs in interesting ways label Jun 6, 2017
@@ -420,7 +420,7 @@ ROUNDSTART_RACES plasmaman
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## Uncomment to give players the choice of joining as a human with mutant bodyparts before they join the game
#JOIN_WITH_MUTANT_HUMANS
JOIN_WITH_MUTANT_HUMANS
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Accidental change here.

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Oh woops. Yeah, changed that so I could test things easier.

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yes please fix ASAP

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Thunder12345 commented Jun 6, 2017

Make wearable kitty ears craftable with a pair of ears and a tail. Force the cats to lose their hat if they want to keep their precious fluffy bits.

icon_state = "kitty"

/obj/item/organ/ears/cat/adjustEarDamage(ddmg, ddeaf)
..(ddmg*2,ddeaf*2)
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this is a bit far.

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lizard fancy legs have a downside, why can't these? if lizards have to take a downside to be snowflake why do humans get a free pass?

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Because lizard legs are optional, cat ears aren't.
(Yes you can choose not to be a catperson, but you can atleast -be- a lizard without having something like this)

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Disagree: cat ears are to humans like digilegs are to lizards.
unless you want to make catpeople a different species, which's an option I guess

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How often do catgirls get flashbanged?

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Cats aren't races you britbong they're mutant parts.

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well, the ears are bigger, wouldnt it make sense to have em more sensitive? in most places with cat girls, they do have stronger hearing

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Yes, and they don't get stronger hearing, they just take double hearing damage which is stupid.

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Digitigrades don't give you a benefit either and are also a mutant part. Remie needs to prove it's not an optional mutant part first.

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I did, you've simply ignored it every time because you have selective reading, or no ability to read at all, it's one of the two.

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Giving catgirls an organ, are you?

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Grazyn commented Jun 6, 2017

You should be able to craft cat o'nine tails from those

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>Collect nine catgirl tails
>Create the cat o' nine tails
>Wear it to have nine fucking cat tails at once

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lzimann commented Jun 6, 2017

>get killed 9 times

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slot = "tail"

/obj/item/organ/tail/lizard

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Uhh, I'm not seeing an icon here? Is the name/desc/icon somewhere else?

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silicons commented Jun 6, 2017

NYAA

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bout time

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WJohn commented Jun 6, 2017

my god goofball was right

about time.

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You are one to talk

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Im adding the cat tongue if you do this

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Nyah

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skeletor

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lzimann commented Jun 7, 2017

@Supermichael777 And I'm closing the pr if you try to add... so yea, go ahead if you want

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Expletive commented Jun 7, 2017

@lzimann I was literally about to commit a cat tongue to this PR when I read that. I'll...put it in a separate branch.

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@lzmann that's blatant code discrimination. I might have to start backing Forceful's ~~~shitposting~~~ political novelas if you do that.

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Supermichael777 commented Jun 7, 2017

the cat tongue was a meme @Expletive I literally put it in the cats.

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Grazyn commented Jun 7, 2017

___undertale___neko_papyrus____by_isabelthehedgehog11-d9n1uu3

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DELET THIS

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the only organ catgirls need in them is this dick

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silicons commented Jun 7, 2017

its time to stop

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silicons commented Jun 7, 2017

giving cats disadvantages
👎

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they should have disadvantages that are more interesting

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lzimann commented Jun 7, 2017

Good.

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Grazyn commented Jun 7, 2017

I think a lot of confusion derives from cats not being a separate race, what if I select the ears but not the tail, am I less than a catperson? What if I select only the tail? As long as the identity of a cat is tied to optional modifications for humans, and modifications can be tied to disadvantages, this is a problem that is going to arise again in the future.

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Or we can just leave them as is/fluff organs, and nip that in the bud right now.
As opposed to unlisted nerfs.

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lzimann commented Jun 7, 2017

Or do the right thing and remove them.

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@lzimann if we play spelunky tonight I'm throwing a rock at you.

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lzimann commented Jun 7, 2017

Ok, I edited the op to no longer be a stealth change.

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I'm still throwing that rock.

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Grazyn commented Jun 7, 2017

If anything, I wish that surgically removable mutant parts would be better integrated with the dismemberment/butchering system, for example you should be able to obtain cat ears if you butcher a cat person's head or a cat simple mob, and it should be possible for lizards and cat people to lose their tails in a fight.

Imagine a crazed CMO killing and butchering Runtime to have its ears and tail surgically grafted on themselves

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Remie your analogy falls apart completely. Did you forget cats aren't a race?

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Attempted stealth changes

I was neutral but now I'm opposed to this on principle.

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@Iamgoofball I've already explained to you, twice, why that's irrelevant.

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Iamgoofball commented Jun 7, 2017

No because you keep comparing catpeople to lizards as if it's a race, when it is in fact not a race and an OPTIONAL OPT-IN feature for HUMANS.

Where's the gameplay feature where we make catpeople not optional?

@lzimann lzimann merged commit 12d522d into tgstation:master Jun 7, 2017
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Thanks(No thanks)

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Wilchenx commented Jun 7, 2017

catgirls

sexsist

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lzimann commented Jun 7, 2017

sorry, catshits!

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1.5x ear damage might be OK. 2x just seems excessive. Still don't know why you need added hearing damage in the first place if they're not getting extend whisper hearing.

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Digitigrade legs, another feature under the mutant parts system, trades cosmetic uniqueness for the inability to wear shoes.

Therefore it's only fair that the other mutant parts also have a downside applied to them.

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@Iamgoofball you are a retard.

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MollyKristoph commented Jun 7, 2017

There is a small difference here. Catpeople aren't a separate race, they're mutants. The same argument can be made for lizards to have ear damage if they go for frills, which would be silly.
I mean, if you're making the argument that digitigrade lizards are mutants, even to their own kind, then sure. I just think that hearing protection and inability to wear bowman's headsets would be more in keeping.

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Wilchenx commented Jun 7, 2017

add cat claws and teef when?

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lzimann commented Jun 7, 2017

Never

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You also haven't refuted my points.

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Iamgoofball commented Jun 8, 2017

@MollyKristoph

Lizards and humans are bog standard by themselves. Mutant parts, the system this all runs on, is a system for adding custom cosmetic organs/parts.

Applying Mutant Legs(digitigrade) to Lizards is cosmetic with a gameplay downside, cant wear shoes.

Applying Mutant Ears(cat) to Humans is cosmetic with a gameplay downside, suffers extra damage from flashbangs.

Remie is calling me a retard because I'm refusing to accept the point they're trying to imply that Catpeople is a race, when in fact catpeople is not a race, and there is no such thing as catpeople.

There are humans with mutant parts.

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