[Bounty] Mutative Crossbreeds #52211
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i'm not cobby, but in terms of "what parts [I] want changed about xenobio, i'd say tearing out all the fucking crossbreeds and scattering their abilities to the winds between different jobs and antagonists. a single job shouldn't have the breadth of abilities it does, most fucking antagonists can't come close, it's utterly bizarre |
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blame fel for creating this system |
I feel like no one would want to play this |
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It's literally a nonantag holoparasite, with 2.5 all-heal per hit and 15 damage punches if i read the code correctly. Even without those it still has the ability to drag the owner out of danger if incapacitated. And yeah, crossbreeds are already a massive dump of random, redundant, poorly balanced effects which could really use a rework if not outright removal. |
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I read it as it only feeds slimes and doesn’t do damage |
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Xenobiology is a mistake and should be reworked like botany. It's always been tip-toeing between rewarding and tedious with the payoff being "lol free antag & op abilities!!!1" that rivals mining which is its own separate game. Hell, you rarely get to do anything with actual aliens despite the station being connected to lavaland. Seriously, give some love to actual aliens instead of these anime boogers. |
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Or give all jobs the breadth of content that xenobio has |
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is this supposed to be "Loner's" or "Lover's"?
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| id = "Loner's protection" |
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is this supposed to be "Loner's" or "Lover's"?
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so, uh, that's the review. I left out grammar concerns because they'd bloat this review too much, but PLEASE get someone to proofread your descriptions before this PR gets merged (some of the, ah, "flawed" descriptions from the heretics PR actually made it into the game, and it's gonna be a bitch to find 'em all and fix 'em).
also, to clarify, the cost of a crossbreed is technically 10 slime cores+1 slime, but I'm counting that slime as being equal in value to a single slime core for convenience's sake.
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| /obj/machinery/photocopier/slime | ||
| name = "Slime photocopier" | ||
| desc = "Used to copy important documents and anatomy studies, it can run on slime jelly!" |
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might wanna mention that it can still run on normal toner
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you might wanna make it also possible to attach this to someone by bopping them with it, with maybe 5u of it injecting instantly (like a hypospray), to reduce jank
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| reagents.trans_to(attached, 5, method = INJECT, show_message = FALSE) //make reagents reacts, but don't spam messages |
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just so you're aware, as far as I can tell, this slime IV can pierce hardsuits
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idk dude, this kinda already overlaps with the rebreather crossbreed item, which just straight up makes you not need to breathe
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| /obj/item/clothing/under/suit/blacktwopiece/slime | ||
| name = "slime suit" | ||
| color = "#00ff15" |
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| color = "#00ff15" | |
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| species_exception = list(/datum/species/golem) |
I'd also suggest making this suit come with a matching set of golem-compatible (and/or digitigrade-compatible?) shoes, and making the item spawner for this suit reusable (with a cooldown, of course), so that we can at least PRETEND that someone is going to blow 11 slime cores on something they can buy from a vending machine for a handful of credits (plus, it'd be pretty cool if I could dress up my golem army in snazzy suits).
also, making these suits golem-compatible would finally allow us to give golems the medals that they truly deserve. hey, actually, a crossbreed that just makes a medal (that can be pinned even on people who aren't wearing/can't wear jumpsuits, like borgs and simplemobs?) might be a pretty good idea for a "filler" crossbreed... maybe replace one of the weaker crossbreeds (like the one that makes a 0 force knife) with that?
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I'd also recommend maybe throwing in some cool shades along with the golem shoes, as then this'd have a reasonable purpose for both powergamers (for making your golem army flashproof without needing welding gear) and people who just want to vibe with their classy golems.
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| name = "slime patch" | ||
| singular_name = "slime patch" | ||
| desc = "Potent patch containing smart chemicals, able to detect and fill out even inorganic damage." |
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might wanna change this description to not mention chemicals and change the name to not use the word "patch", as the term "patch" in ss13 chemistry usually refers to chem patches, and that could cause some confusion
also, if possible, could you allow these to heal golems and skeletons, if they (and/or normal sutures?) can't heal them already?
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| /obj/item/slimecross/mutative/item_spawner/lightpink | ||
| item_spawner = /obj/item/kitchen/knife/slime |
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dude just print a normal knife from an autolathe or buy one from a vending machine why the fuck would you spend 11 slime cores on a glorified PLASTIC KNIFE
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| /obj/item/slimecross/mutative/item_spawner/adamantine | ||
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I guess this has some use as a weapon with a decent force value, but, like, the rainbow knife costs ONE core and does only 3 less damage (admittedly, it'll sometimes roll oxyloss as its damage type, so ehhhhhhh).
maybe give this claymore a wound_bonus or something?
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xenobiology is on a path to destruction |
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Crossbreeds were a mistake |
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also there's no point in reviewing this ATHATH, there's very little chance it will get merged |
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crossbreed PRs are getting BTFOd, I don't have someone who I can trust to give good balance insight on xenobio nor am I a fan of the crossbreed approach to xenobio. It should be about capturing monsters and morphing them to usable entities (slime cow slime cow). |
About The Pull Request
Adds all mutative crossbreeds! I had to change a few of them, but majority work exactly like the ones on the wiki.
Changes from wiki:
Mutative Industrial sheets only work on girders
Mutative Yellow is not infinite but is instead a 300 stack of super compressed coil
Mutative Rainbow instead provides a one use holoprara injector with a single option: Power Farmer! It works like weaker support holopara but it's attacks feed slimes!
Why It's Good For The Game
Variety is good, and since i know cobby is gonna cockblock this pr, just leave a comment saying what parts you want changed about xenobio for this to be mergable.
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