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You can monkeyize Lizards into Kobolds now #58404

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@tralezab tralezab commented Apr 13, 2021

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Approved by @Mothblocks

Really the title says it all. They're a lot more monkeylike than they are lizardlike.

One thing I should say is that they don't have a special language for themselves. They speak draconic (which means lizards will be able to speak to them) but they can't even understand common to balance that out.

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Why It's Good For The Game

Monkified is a super cool gene, I think players will enjoy expanding the possibilities here.

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add: You can monkify lizards now. Dios Mios...
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Not a particular fan of this, I don't think we need more sub species

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ATH1909 commented Apr 13, 2021

but unfortunately between monkified being locked to humans and plasmamen being dna immune, the meta is human only if you're playing geneticist which sucks.

you can monkify moths and such; it's not a human-only mutation.

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I'll edit OP

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ATH1909 commented Apr 13, 2021

now I (or someone else; feel free to copy the gimmick) can play as a kobold with a wand of death when I next roll wizard

tail_type = "Kobold"
icon_state = "severedkoboldtail"

/obj/item/organ/tail/monkey/Insert(mob/living/carbon/human/H, special = FALSE, drop_if_replaced = TRUE)
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wrong path

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Kobolds are humans though? Seems like the correct path. Also you should use /human insteaf of /H, no idea why but maintainers demand it

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he meant that its tail/monkey

H.dna.features["tail_kobold"] = tail_type
H.update_body()

/obj/item/organ/tail/monkey/Remove(mob/living/carbon/human/H, special = FALSE)
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ditto

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BODY_ZONE_L_ARM = /obj/item/bodypart/l_arm,\
BODY_ZONE_R_ARM = /obj/item/bodypart/r_arm,\
BODY_ZONE_HEAD = /obj/item/bodypart/head,\
BODY_ZONE_L_LEG = /obj/item/bodypart/l_leg,\
BODY_ZONE_R_LEG = /obj/item/bodypart/r_leg,\
BODY_ZONE_CHEST = /obj/item/bodypart/chest)
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the monkey bodyparts have some overrides you might be overlooking like negative wound resistance or the animal_origin thing

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What do kobolds look like in-game?

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Mey-Ha-Zah commented Apr 14, 2021

I had a lot of fun spriting the Kobold, really hope this gets accepted.

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What do kobolds look like in-game?

This. The iconbot just shows it deconstructed, we wanna see the REAL kobolds

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Haven't looked into this yet, but what I okayed was more or less the equivalent to chickens for Vox (where they are monkified into, more or less, simple mobs). Will need to see the scope of this.

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Mothblocks commented Apr 14, 2021

Yeah this looks alright, my only concern is that eventually people will take this from a monkey reskin into something a lot more materially different, which I don't approve of, so will just need to make sure we put our foot down when that happens.

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H.dna.features["tail_monkey"] = "None"
H.dna.species.mutant_bodyparts -= "tail_monkey"
H.update_body()

/obj/item/organ/tail/lizard/kobold
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Does this need to be a subtype of lizard tails? What benefit does that give us?

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To be clear--my goal is that these are, ideally, just monkey reskins. I don't really want any non-cosmetic behavior aside from that.

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To be clear--my goal is that these are, ideally, just monkey reskins. I don't really want any non-cosmetic behavior aside from that.

CATERPILLAR MOTH MONKEYS

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Pictures please

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icon_state = "lbelly"
gender_specific = 1

//there was no other way... i'm sorry.......
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i dont know if i can approve of this on moral grounds anymore

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moocowswag commented Apr 14, 2021

If they are supposed to be nothing more than a monkey reskin will they turn into gorillas when irradiated?

Also will this break jungle fever? (if its still even in the game and an admin spawns it)

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Haven't looked into this yet, but what I okayed was more or less the equivalent to chickens for Vox (where they are monkified into, more or less, simple mobs). Will need to see the scope of this.

We do have lizards already

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yeah thats true but both are cute to me so its alrigth

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You guys will get that picture trust me

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Ryll-Ryll commented Apr 15, 2021

I'm confused, these look nothing like the canonical dnd kobolds?

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davethwave commented Apr 15, 2021

There are typically two different kind of kobold. One the the dog people and the other are the dragon worshipping and greedy lizards the PR guy made here.

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Oh I know, I just wanted an excuse to post the dog kobold because god just look at it

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Not a particular fan of this, I don't think we need more sub species

Kind of same opinion here.
Besides, weren't lizardpeople supposed to be the lesser species already? Why make a lesser lesser specie?

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monkey

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Not a particular fan of this, I don't think we need more sub species

Kind of same opinion here.
Besides, weren't lizardpeople supposed to be the lesser species already? Why make a lesser lesser specie?

You could say the same thing about felinds

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Lesser species only in terms of balance, humans should be the "meta pick"

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I've thought about this more and I have come to the inescapable conclusion that this adds nothing of value

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ah well

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I walk a lonely road
The only one that I have ever known
Don't know where it goes
But it's home to me, and I walk alone
I walk this empty street
On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Where the city sleeps
And I'm the only one, and I walk alone

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sad

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You could say the same thing about felinds

These don't exist and you know it.

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