Makes adminwho report when you press it to the admins online at the time, along with to the game.txt log.

[Iamgoofball]

About The Pull Request

Makes adminwho report when you press it to the admins online at the time.

Why It's Good For The Game

Studies show that 75% of people who adminwho are about to do something they think they aren't supposed to do, and this will allow admins to catch those 75% in the act instead of before it can be stopped.
The other 25% are people about to ahelp, so this gives admins a period to mentally prepare themselves for the ahelp.

Changelog

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admin: Makes adminwho report when you press it to the admins online at the time, and to the game log.
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[Burgermancoding]

Wouldn't this spam logs without a cooldown or delay or something

[JohnFulpWillard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5KpmJ-N3zQ

[Kylerace]

yes it would

[Iamgoofball]

@Burgermancoding i could drop the log level to log_game() or something

[Bawhoppen]

This is a targetted nerf towards me

[LemonInTheDark]

Polling the admin team for interest on this, (I or my kyler shaped body double) will get back to you soon with results

[wesoda25]

I do not want nor need this information, if a player wants to know who is online that is completely their own business.

[Iamgoofball]

@LemonInTheDark Worst case, I'll leave it at a log_game() for logging purposes during appeals.

[Burgermancoding]

@Burgermancoding i could drop the log level to log_game() or something

I don't think there's any harm in it being logged, but I can't see that much of a use case for it honestly

[optimumtact]

absolutely not

[Kylerace]

i havent seen a single admin say this was wanted in any way and/or is useful information.

[Iamgoofball]

so you don't want any indication of a player checking if admins are online period? alright, but i feel like you'd catch some people out in appeals with this information available

[wesoda25]

Logging is unnecessary and guarantees false positives. The signal to noise ratio will be awful and the only usage this will see is admins guessing at the intention of a player. This is shit, if you are taking administrative action it should be by defensible metrics.

[Iamgoofball]

the kinda scenario where i'd see this being useful is
toxins maxcapped science
whether or not it was accidental can be determined in this case by checking if they adminwho'd first before they blew up

[wesoda25]

That is guessing at their intention.

[Iamgoofball]

You're stuck guessing at their intention anyways, science was maxcapped and not by an antag. An admin can't not act on a maxcap by a non-antag.

[wesoda25]

And in such a situation we stick to reason. If there is obvious evidence that it was intentional we take action, otherwise it's status quo. Note/ban depending on how merciful the admin is, with a preference for documentation so that we can recognize a pattern of behavior if need be. Those bans have a much more stable foundation than a guess at intent due to someone pressing a button for what could have been many different reasons.

[ZeWaka]

fun fact: goon logs this lol (admins can disable via preference)

i bet goof didn't even know that when stealing the idea from us 😎

[LemonInTheDark]

Theft is the sincerest form of flattery

[PaulRitter]

/tg/ when goof actually has a good idea and they cant compute

[AffectedArc07]

Commenting before reddit arrives.

[AffectedArc07]

so you don't want any indication of a player checking if admins are online period? alright, but i feel like you'd catch some people out in appeals with this information available

Sidenote on this. We have a feature where we can bring the ticket window up for people, as well as tell if they close the window.

It is fucking hilarious when they say in an appeal "I didnt see a ticket window", when we have logs of them closing the window itself.

[optimumtact]

Commenting before reddit arrives.

you were too late im afraid