ChilledStation: A Bold New Venture for Nanotrasen #72994

EOBGames · 2023-01-27T18:27:58Z

About The Pull Request

NOTE: CHILLED IS NOT ENTIRELY FINISHED. THIS PR IS BEING OPENING IN DRAFT TO ALLOW FOR PLAYTESTING OF THE (MOSTLY) COMPLETE STATION LAYOUT VIA TESTMERGE!

Adds a new map: ChilledStation. Planned as an icebox replacement, ChilledStation aims to create a map that feels planetary. Icebox, for all the improvements made to it in the last few years, is ultimately let down by its circumstances- originally designed for space, the bulk of the map has never felt particularly fitting for a planetary setting. New additions obviously help, but the vast majority doesn't quite feel right.

Now, to get away from making snipes at another of our maps and instead getting on to what Chilled brings itself: Chilled is a built-from-scratch map, utilising the icemoon framework. It aims for a mid-to-highpop population band; while the station itself is large, the departments aim for relative compactness and centrally-focused design, ensuring that even at midpop players should be interacting frequently.

As for quality- that's subjective, but I like to think that Chilled brings a unique and fresh style to TG, inspired primarily by the works of Okand and Cogwerks, but obviously divergent in its own way. I'd like to know what people think once they get the opportunity to play it.

I obviously have to thank every mapper we've got, as I think everyone's helped in some form or another with Chilled (after all, it took 3 years from start to finish), as well as special mentions for code assistance to @SpaceSmithers, @LemonInTheDark, and @MrMelbert who all really helped with various code tribbles and troubles. @Maurukas also deserves major kudos for his work on Chilled's various atmos problems.

Full Screenshots (WIP Version):
Ground Level

B1F

B2F

B3F (Caves Layer)

B4F (Depths Layer)

Currently known issues:

Visual: The arrivals train travels through space to arrive. This will need resolved in code, and is currently beyond the scope of getting the station finished.
Gameplay: Maint isn't finished. I'm planning to open this up a bit to collaboration, provided initial testing goes smoothly. Sorry to all the assistant maint-trawling mains- I promise, it'll be in a better state eventually for you.
Gameplay: Mining surface ruins don't spawn. This is a consequence of the surface being tied to unique effects which I don't want replicated in the cave layer. The areas can be tweaked, but this is pretty minor, affecting (as I recall) only 6 ruins.

Why It's Good For The Game

As noted above, Icebox has never quite fitted on the icemoon setting. Chilled is built from scratch to serve this purpose, and should be a better showcase of the potential of planetary maps.

Changelog

🆑 EOBGames, Maurukas
add: ChilledStation has arrived! Look for it in your map vote list at mid-to-highpop, and begin your new venture onto the icemoon today.
/:cl:

Time-Green · 2023-01-27T18:31:00Z

ITS HAPPENING ITS HAPPENING I LOVE YOU CHILLED HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

the-orange-cow · 2023-01-27T18:34:41Z

please please please let the power be better than icebox

unit0016 · 2023-01-27T18:36:34Z

I have never been as excited to feel completely lost as I am now.

tralezab · 2023-01-27T18:38:41Z

Someone call icebox shes crying
AND GOOD ITS GOOD THAT SHE'S CRYING GET HER OUT OF HERE

theta891 · 2023-01-27T18:40:01Z

having multi layer plasteel walls on armory and SM seems excessive

Jolly-66 · 2023-01-27T18:55:27Z

Can you believe it guys
Chilled Station
In just one week
Chilled Station
I'm so happy for this information

LemonInTheDark · 2023-01-27T19:32:17Z

Oh lord it's 5z he a chonker
Bully me if this causes clientside lag I have ideas

Cheshify · 2023-01-27T19:44:55Z

Incredibly awesome map, I've been following this through development and I couldn't be happier to finally see it.

github-actions · 2023-01-27T21:01:40Z

This pull request was test merged in 51 round(s).

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DaydreamIQ · 2023-01-27T22:06:02Z

Despite not really needing them Engineering seems to not spawn with any modsuits in their storage containers, their departmental order console is a medical one and I wasn't personally able to find any insulated gloves anywhere

EOBGames · 2023-01-27T22:40:33Z

Despite not really needing them Engineering seems to not spawn with any modsuits in their storage containers, their departmental order console is a medical one and I wasn't personally able to find any insulated gloves anywhere

Taking a look over, these are all problems, yeah- I'd used an industrial suit storage forgetting those don't actually have engi suits in them by default, and must have copied the order console from medbay using the room there as a reference. As for insuls, table stuff is sorta all over the place. I'll sort these all out, and cheers for the reports.

Maurukas · 2023-01-28T00:31:17Z

This is so good. I've gotten lost in it for over an hour now, and I feel like I've seen less than ten percent of it. So rather than lavishing you in further praise, have a bunch of minor issues instead.

Fixable stuff, some of which might be intentional or just not done yet.

Access restrictions on AI upload are missing
Access on the windoors around the bridge comm console is wrong (currently captain only, should be command unless this is deliberate). Heads will not be able to call the shuttle without breaking in.
Command quarters (fantastic addition) are missing shutter controls
Tech storage has lots of empty racks, which looks kind of weird because of how dense the spawned circuit boards are on other racks. More clutter/goodies?
The SM seems unstable in it's default configuration. I'm not immediately sure why - if it's the multi-z space, but it got unhappy fast and I had to straight pipe everything to stabilize it.
The SM needs some better meter placement. Try to make sure there's at least one gas meter in each section of the engine loop that's separated by atmos devices to make sure clogs are visually apparent to players.
Hidden pipes in the SM instead of visible:
Rear SMES are unreachable over the table:

If you'd prefer it, I can start tackling things and start PRing to your branch, or just continue to list things here.

san7890 · 2023-01-28T00:53:29Z

_maps/chilledstation.json

+		{
+			"Down": -1,
+			"Up": 1,
+			"Mining": true,
+			"Linkage": null,
+			"Gravity": true,
+			"Ice Ruins Underground": true,
+			"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",
+			"No Parallax": true
+		},
+		{
+			"Down": -1,
+			"Up": 1,
+			"Mining": true,
+			"Linkage": null,
+			"Gravity": true,
+			"Ice Ruins Underground": true,
+			"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",
+			"No Parallax": true
+		},
+		{
+			"Down": -1,
+			"Mining": true,
+			"Linkage": null,
+			"Gravity": true,
+			"Ice Ruins": true,
+			"Weather_Snowstorm": true,
+			"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",
+			"No Parallax": true
+		}
+	],
+	"minetype": "none",


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{

"Down": -1,

"Up": 1,

"Mining": true,

"Linkage": null,

"Gravity": true,

"Ice Ruins Underground": true,

"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",

"No Parallax": true

},

{

"Down": -1,

"Up": 1,

"Mining": true,

"Linkage": null,

"Gravity": true,

"Ice Ruins Underground": true,

"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",

"No Parallax": true

},

{

"Down": -1,

"Mining": true,

"Linkage": null,

"Gravity": true,

"Ice Ruins": true,

"Weather_Snowstorm": true,

"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",

"No Parallax": true

}

],

"minetype": "none",

{

"Down": -1,

"Up": 1,

"Mining": true,

"Linkage": null,

"Gravity": true,

"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",

"No Parallax": true

},

{

"Down": -1,

"Up": 1,

"Mining": true,

"Linkage": null,

"Gravity": true,

"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",

"No Parallax": true

},

{

"Down": -1,

"Mining": true,

"Linkage": null,

"Gravity": true,

"Weather_Snowstorm": true,

"Baseturf": "/turf/open/openspace/icemoon/keep_below",

"No Parallax": true

}

],

"minetype": "none",

The ruin loader is wasting time on every initialize because the z-level is flagged to have these ruins (The Ice Ruins and Ice Ruins Underground boolean), but you (deliberately) haven't placed any valid areas for it to place stuff into

private-tristan · 2023-01-28T01:46:47Z

I think(?) There aren't enough manifolds to properly cool down the supermatter, especially if it gets set on fire
Theres no ice atmos under it so its' temperature equalizes slowly because it crosses z levels instead of being replaced by planey atmos like icebox
also no plasma-lake for manifold cooling :(

Maurukas · 2023-01-28T01:52:59Z

Heading through medbay now:

Morgue chute terminates abruptly here:
Medbay's crematorium is set to crematorium access, which medical staff do not have. This should probably be morgue access, as this room is entirely internal to medbay.
I cannot locate a button for the shutters in pathology on the morgue
Shipping supplies for the medbay delivery office
Medbay needs a general lightswitch pass
Cryo's waste filter is not connected to the atmospheric loop, so cryo is currently nonfunctional. There are also some extra pipes here:
This area near the morgue has no lighting (unless this is intentional)
Plumbing APC is not wired
Chemistry is missing some typical roundstart supplies - beakers, pills and other typical clutter.

ophaq · 2023-01-28T08:13:45Z

This is so awesome. Can't wait to play it!

Inari-Whitebear · 2023-01-28T08:35:33Z

From playing it last night:

Some engis said they couldn't find insuls
Apparently the engi ordering console was the medical one
Yeah the SM manifolds seemed kinda bad at cooling, used the coolers
Didn't seem to find an RPD in the SM room or engi areas? Think an atmos tech ended up handing me one, but maybe the CE took the one that was lying around or such

zxaber · 2023-01-28T11:17:54Z

Seems pretty cool.

Anyway, this robotics design with the mech bay and fabs in the same room is really neat.

Certainly a fresh take on the idea. Though, making the charging area for mechs be the workshop itself makes me wonder if we should have a separate public mech charger, like outside engineering or something.

Also, it's missing borg chargers, and could use a holopad right in the center.

SomeoneYouProbablyKnow · 2023-01-28T14:48:54Z

Finally we can axe icebox and have a map that's actually purpose built for planetside.

Also Holy shit a chemistry lab that actually looks like a real lab. Impossible.

My only concern is the sheer size o this lad. Could be prudent to slap a minimum of like 40 pop on it.

Mey-Ha-Zah · 2023-01-28T15:56:53Z

All of my yes. Icebox had potential but I always felt the conversion was half hearted, this looks so good and I LOVE the rafter areas.

Atmos work for: Engineering corridors Central Primary corridors Security + brig cells Dorms + arrivals shuttle Minor SM cleanup Disconnected powergrid in atmos Z:2 + meters

* Turbine work + test Linked turbine computer to turbine linked turbine shutters ordmix airlock controls replumbed turbine airlock + added devices additional qol to atmos - lights, meters, spare cans, missing mixer tweaked turbine plumbingsas * tcomms glass subtype

* Replace cursed beach turfs /turf/open/water/beach is an insidious trap because it has no initial gas mix set. It exists to be used as a baseturf and the actual gas mix is set on /turf/open/water/beach/biodome * 0 ATs Also fixes runtiming airlock sensor

spockye

missing pipes (mining mech bay)

doesn't this need an output? (xenobio)

missing pipes (research division)

missing pipes (atmos office)

missing pipes (brig) (both sides)

missing pipes (ordenance testing)

missing scrubber (upper science division)

is this supposed to be connected? (science mainteannce)

missing cables (mining comms / labour camp sec)

missing wires i think ( mining station)

missing cables i think (cargo maintenance)

missing cables i think (ai sat antechamber)

wire wackery (central maintenance)

missing cables i think ( botanical garden gantries)

unconnected disposals ( library private study )

unconnected disposals (cargo office)

missing disposals pipe (dormitories)

disposals wackery (medbay)

more disposals wackery ( medbay)

missing disposals (robotics / smoothie / genetics) ( and coffee shop )

missing disposals pipes (medbay / chapel maintenance) (also a unconnected bin right below)

disposals wackery ( psychs / bar / botanical garden / brig control / brig )

disposals wackery ( teleporter / eva / gateway / atmos office )

missing disposals pipes ( Head of security office )

zone error

atmos maints jumpscare

mmmh, snow
mhmhmhmhm snow.... amazing work

optimumtact · 2023-04-25T23:13:56Z

open a new pr when this is actually ready?

EOBGames requested review from Maurukas, san7890 and ShizCalev as code owners January 27, 2023 18:27

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About The Pull Request

NOTE: CHILLED IS NOT ENTIRELY FINISHED. THIS PR IS BEING OPENING IN DRAFT TO ALLOW FOR PLAYTESTING OF THE (MOSTLY) COMPLETE STATION LAYOUT VIA TESTMERGE!

Full Screenshots (WIP Version): Ground Level

B1F

B2F

B3F (Caves Layer)

Why It's Good For The Game

Changelog

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