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Password Input Glitches

Robert Jordan edited this page Nov 25, 2020 · 3 revisions

Propagating X Input (Invalid X)

Note: This bug is associated with PowerDVD. When testing in other less-functional players, X input works as expected.

When inputting a password, every time you set the 4th letter C4 or last letter F8 of your password to X, the previous 3 letters will all be overwritten with X as well.

The X4 position will cause headaches for anyone trying to access the early scenes at the beginning of the game as this will make the Scene ID invalid and the password unusable without replacing the first 3 letters. On the other hand, X8 seems to be taken care of by how the game clears its flags, this bug should only be an issue if you are manipulating the passwords yourself.

For example, trying to enter in the following passwords will result in the password on the right. For the In-Game result in the bottom right, B is a Garbage Letter.

Input Result In-Game
ABRXZFDS XXXXZFDS Invalid Scene ID
JWTUAIGX JWTUXXXX JWTUXBXX

Solution for Either

The basic solution is to just navigate to whichever position X appears in the password and input X as normal, then use the arrow buttons to move password cursor and input the rest of the letters in the password. You must not enter in X again in either slot 4 or slot 8 after entering in the rest of the password as it will just cause the same problem to happen again.

You should not enter in letters before inputting X4 or X8, as you may risk triggering the Password Navigation Crash

Fast Solution for X4

During input, set the 2nd letter S2 of your password to Z and the 4th letter G4 to O.

This solution works by swapping out the first garbage letter with the real value of zero (Z) and modifying the Garbage Checksum appropriately. You can freely modify any other amount of Garbage Letters and recalculate the password, but this way requires little memorization.

Here are some examples of passwords that have their second and fourth letter changed for faster input.

Original Modified
ABRXZFDS AZROZFDS
UKLXZSQQ UZLOZSQQ
EMZXZBSB EZZOZBSB
JDCXZQVF JZCOZQVF

Fast Solution for X8

First move the password cursor to the 8th slot then enter X, then move it to the first slot and enter in the rest of the password.

Password Navigation Crash

Note: This bug is associated with PowerDVD, and its parent glitch.

The Password Navigation Crash is a subglitch directly associated with the Propagating X Input glitch. If you enter in Garbage Letters (B, D, F, I, K, M, Q, S, V, Y) for any of the 3 letters before inputting X4 or X8, then when you try to navigate the password cursor back to that letter slot, the game will crash.

Workaround

Do not enter in any letters before inputting X4 or X8 if you plan on navigating back to them.

Out of Bounds Scene IDs

Scene IDs greater than or equal to XAU are not treated as valid input by the Password Input Menu. One of the bad ends uses these scene IDs and it even contains a choice, so it is very likely someone may encounter this. The Title-Chapters in question are 26-14, and 26-71 to 26-76.

Workaround

The workaround for this is to jump to the Scene before the bad end starts then just skip chapters until you reach where you last were. Users can reach this bad end from 26-47 COZ or 26-58 UXZ.

Here are passwords to jump to either of these scenes. The last four letters do not need to be entered in, as their data is no longer used, and they will represent a valid password by default if you input the first four letters correctly.

Scene Password
26-47 COZZZZZZ
26-58 UXZZZZZZ

TZA Scene ID Crash

The Scene ID TZA (TZG, TZH, TZT) is accepted as a valid password Scene ID, but the moment you press OK with this Scene ID in place (and the rest of the password is valid), the game will crash. This Scene ID likely does not have anything assigned to it, and thus the game fails to handle it properly.

There is no solution, nor is there a need for one, just don't accidentally enter in this for the first 3 letters of your password.