Don't use Canonical Ltd. logo in application menu icon on non-Ubuntu distros

[sunweaver]

Expected Behavior

On non-Ubuntu systems, the application menu should not show the Ubuntu logo. (e.g. in MATE desktop).

Actual Behavior

On Debian, the application menu button shows the Ubuntu logo.

Steps to Reproduce the Problem

• Install Debian bookworm with MATE
• Install yaru-theme-gtk and yaru-theme-icon
• Switch MATE's desktop theme to any of the Yaru themes
• Look at the application menu's button in the panel

Software that presents the issue

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Yaru version

Seen in 22.10.3 and 24.04.4.

The suggestion who to fix it comes from Jeremy Bicha:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012013#10

[Jupi007]

Thanks for the forward.

So if I understand correctly, we should just drop the ubuntu logo from start-here-symbolic?

But the ubuntu logo is also used at some other places, so should we drop it everywhere or is it fine?

[Initu-Castilhos]

You can create a Yaru logo, just like the Numix icon which has its own logo.

[sunweaver]

This is about start-here-symbolic only, indeed. That icon should either be a yaru logo (distro-agnostic) or a logo that makes sense for an "open-application-menu" button. For Ubuntu, it probably makes sense to keep the Ubuntu logo, but for other distros, you might want to add a build configuration switch that replaces the Ubuntu'esque start-here-symbolic by something else more generic. Thanks for taking a look at this. This is much appreciated!!!

The other Ubuntu logos are ok', I'd say (not sure trademark and copyright wise, this should be clarified within Canonical Ltd.).

[Muqtxdir]

perhaps in the packaging we can make conditional choice to use the current(ubuntu) start-here-symbolic if it's getting packaged for ubuntu and something (gnome logo) for other packaging target

[sunweaver]

perhaps in the packaging we can make conditional choice to use the current(ubuntu) start-here-symbolic if it's getting packaged for ubuntu and something (gnome logo) for other packaging target

Please not the gnome logo. Note that Yaru can be used on MATE, Xfce, etc. Not much sense in showing the foot in the application menu button there... ;-)

[Feichtmeier]

I would suggest to use an icon that matches the name
start-here-symbolic
the yaru icon just is an icon for our team

[Jupi007]

What about use app-grid-symbolic?

[Muqtxdir]

that makes sense, if there are no other suggestions apart from this. let's go with app grid symbolic

[Feichtmeier]

+1

[Jupi007]

Okay, let's go with this so.

[Jupi007]

I just remember that we also have a fullcolor version of start-here, but only in the mate variant.
Should I also drop it, and replace it with a new app-grid icon (we don't have one yet)? @sunweaver

[sunweaver]

On Mi 21 Jun 2023 20:39:25 UTC, Paul Kepinski wrote: I just remember that we also have a fullcolor version of `start-here`, but only in the `mate` variant. Should I also drop it, and replace it with a new `app-grid` icon (we don't have one yet)? @sunweaver

Please leave the MATE variants as they are. Or rather: @flexiondotorg? Any input on this? Basically, non-Ubuntu distros should be able to use Yaru in a non-Ubuntu'esque way. Possibly, Ubuntu MATE will need a different icon from whst e.g. Debian MATE needs when using those MATE specific variants of Yaru.

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[Jupi007]

@sunweaver Instead of removing the ubuntu logo in our repository - which would make it a bit more difficult for us to build the ubuntu yaru theme package - I added a fullcolor version of the view-app-grid icon.
This way, alternative distributions can symlink start-here(-symbolic) to view-app-grid(-symbolic), which is brand neutral (see #3931).

[Jupi007]

Reopen this.
@Muqtxdir will create another PR with some custom debian rules.