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Just wondering whether or how "Taiwan" is handled? #1

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Public-Health-Bioinformatics opened this issue Apr 28, 2016 · 5 comments
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I see a treatment of Palestinian Occupied Territories which seems appropriate. Is "Taiwan" a similarly complicated case?

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hoganwr commented Apr 29, 2016

I've been looking in the OWL files and for some reason, Taiwan seems to be
missing. I'm looking at the source data I used to create the OWL files and
don't see Taiwan there either.

I'm going to log an issue on the tracker. We're pretty busy right now, but
I should have the situation resolved in about two weeks.

In the meantime if you have suggestions on how to handle Taiwan's unique
status (sovereign state vs. dependency), I'm all ears.

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hoganwr commented Apr 29, 2016

I see this is already logged as an issue.

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K, thanks, and no rush. Taiwan is a tough one. Just reading wikipedia on it makes my head spin. Not quite as bad as bangladeshi-Indian 1st/2nd/3rd order enclaves but still a doozie. No advice to offer!

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I've been looking in the OWL files and for some reason, Taiwan seems to be
missing. I'm looking at the source data I used to create the OWL files and
don't see Taiwan there either.

I'm going to log an issue on the tracker. We're pretty busy right now, but
I should have the situation resolved in about two weeks.

In the meantime if you have suggestions on how to handle Taiwan's unique
status (sovereign state vs. dependency), I'm all ears.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Damion Dooley <notifications@github.commailto:notifications@github.com>
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I see a treatment of Palestinian Occupied Territories which seems
appropriate. Is "Taiwan" a similarly complicated case?


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dillerm commented Aug 4, 2016

After a bit of background research, we've come to the conclusion that Taiwan meets the definition for 'de facto sovereign state' (i.e., sovereign state), but does not meet the definition for 'de jure sovereign state' (i.e., a state whose sovereignty is acknowledged by the international community, which is the UN). The rationale behind this can be found at GEO's Wiki.

Our current definition for 'sovereign state', which is borrowed from the Montevideo Convention, refers to de facto state. As such, in order to represent Taiwan, we'll need to create a class for de jure state, which I'll propose a definition for below:

A sovereign state whose political sovereignty has been recognized by the United Nations, in accordance with international law.

We will then want to move all OWL individuals that currently are rdf:type "sovereign state" to rdf:type "de facto sovereign state." We should also, presumably, add a comment or two to this class that briefly clarifies the process through which a state receives international recognition (i.e., through full membership to the UN), and that this membership supersedes all other claims to that state's sovereignty.

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hoganwr commented Aug 4, 2016

Just to be clear, all the nation instances in GEO are already rdf:type sovereign state (de facto state). They all need to be moved to de jure sovereign state. Then we can add Taiwan and others as de facto states.

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