Major Announcement regarding Player and Studio #59
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The only thing I can think of is spinning up a windows virtual machine to run Roblox, as that will not need wine to run. Still a shame, as the performance impact will be much larger than compatibility layers. I have one question though, what does the new 64-bit client have to do with this? |
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The 64 Bit Player client includes the new Byfron anti-cheat which has been specifically set to detect and thwart attempts to use Wine. |
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Why do they feel the need to block Wine users? Roblox's history strongly suggests they won't give a second look at Linux compatibility ever again, and that statement was made to delay the pitchforks. Their statements on the reason they blocked Wine also sounds like a whole load of corporate bs to me. Seems like they are trying to cover up some other reason. Sorry if I sound insane right now, but companies pulling stuff like this isn't new, and I don't think this is an exception. :( |
I've read here that it is not a permanent measure, rather they are trying to collect crash data from bare-metal Roblox client bugs on Windows for the foreseeable future. Punishing users who play via Wine is reportedly not their intent. Still not ideal for us in the short term, however. |
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Fair point, but the percentage of Roblox players playing on Linux is so low that the crash data they get from us would probably fly under their radar though. Might just be an overly cautious decision, but nevertheless it was kind of crappy in my opinion. |
10 million users play roblox every month, there are about 200k ROL users, so its safe to say that around 100k users use ROL every month, 25% of that would have the new client, so thats still 25k unusable crash data. |
And their solution is to just straight up close access? I don't think I'll be playing if they close it anyway. IDK how people will be willing to get another OS to play roblox, because I'm certainly not going to. Regardless, even if its 100k users, that is very little compared to literally everything else. 100k people is 0.1%, to gain what, a 0.05% more people? probably less since people that dual-boot windows will prob already use roblox there! and that is if everyone got the new client, which probably won't happen. Just like that "new" menu I still haven't gotten. It's safe to say that they are getting like a gain of 0.0125% (half of those 25k monthly users). |
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by the way, I'm guessing this still applies to grapejuice and just trying to use wine in general? Why can roblox just try releasing something for the steam deck... that would be so helpful |
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Well I mean at least they didn't take a month to answer |
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a gpu passthrough might be able to help with that (not completely eliminate the issue, but help), however the manual per-user overhead would be significantly higher during initial setup, and it's more volatile to dying whenever windows/nvidia/roblox decide to change shit |
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Roblox byfron can detect and block VM from what I have seen. |
Yeah! They do! They are also blocking virtual machines. I found out about it on a the forums but I can't find the comment. Anyway, I found some info if anyone wants it:
Oh and I can't find it but they said "We're planning to release wine compatibility". But it's most likely never going to happen. Some good news though! Apparently only the client is affected, so if anyone likes to use studio you're fine. |
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Well if any of you liked playing Roblox get ready to dual-boot |
I am sad to announce that this command does not work anymore. :( |
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Game over guys, ZLIVE is now patched out |
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Time for a Windows partition... 😭 |
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Time to shut down this project along with grapejuice |
A roblox admin mentioned they might try to get wine working again, but given it was so vague, it might just be damage control. |
I think it was more to prevent backlash (which didn't work) than actually supporting Linux community |
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Correct me if I am missing something but according to areweanticheatyet.com, Apex Legends uses hyperion and runs under proton, so what exactly would be stopping the new client to run under linux? (Besides the manual blocking from roblox) |
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it uses EAC, which has native support for Wine, and the same goes for Hyperion. So realistically roblox is stopping it. |
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They don't want "bloated reports for an unsupported medium" and also "it'd take too much effort to filter out wine users" Not exactly their word but they said it |
Anyone know a modified windows version lightweight enough for gaming only purposes and doesn't install useless dlls |
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heard something about atlas OS. They just released the much needed security update, but I heard it runs like a charm. Although you'll need to enable/disable mitigations depending on your hardware, and some other stuff. Custom ISOs aren't worth it, they often come without protection and Microsoft really hates custom ISOs for a reason. Install WindowsDebloater10 was my go-to option s few years back, maybe that's enough for you (removing Cortana/OneDrive) |
i reeinstalled multiple times from GIT, cleaned the install cloned the GIT manually and built it, still same my execute command is |
Did you try with |
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the version url is forced to use the ZIntegration channel, while the deploy is not. You have to set the channel manually in the configuration to zintegration: rco = false
[channels]
force = true
player = "zintegration" |
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Now it dies with this: and the output: and the log: (thats it, very short) config: |
Set rco to false |
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tried that already, same error |
What is your wine version? |
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wine-8.13 (Staging) |
Use wine-ge-custom instead |
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ah, thanks! |
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we know, there was discussion above already about getting vinegar working with integration. |
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I got it working for a bit except going in a game keeps crashing |
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This is due to roblox memory leakage. |
thought so is there a fix for it |
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So it seemed to fix itself with mem issue, but it upgraded and broken again
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are you running with SUDO? or is your main user a SUDO user or has those privileges because fior me it works |
WINE does not have support for users from what i've heard, so it runs everything at an 'administrative' level |
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yeah 'sudo vinegar player' didnt change anything but it also doesnt give me an error on re-installing it hmmm |
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are you running with SUDO? or is your main user a SUDO user or has those privileges |
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xD i tried to break it maybe its grapejuice |
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no grapejuice works (at least when not running with sudo, grapejuice is so bad to configure im not doing it again) maybe its privileges and sudo but only on grapejuice or someone did a very bad job of linuxing (using linux to play roblox) |
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Closing thread due to outdated info |
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I got the game working under the only for about a minute into an experience, and then the game freezes, with this in the logs |
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dont use proton-ge + vulkan renderer if you did it |
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k wine-ge fixed it all g sorry |
Hi all, Roblox is currently blocking Wine users with the new 64-bit client for the foreseeable future. If you encounter the message "Wine is not supported", please know that it comes from Roblox's side. There's nothing we can do at the moment.
Additionally, the new version of Studio is using obscure Windows functions which are currently unsupported by Wine. Several communities are currently working to resolve this issue.
We apologize for any downtime. These updates are detrimental to Wine users. For Player, the only thing that can be done at the moment is to express feedback to Roblox, as they have mentioned they are open towards Wine usage in the future.
If you have any clue on how to continue the Roblox on Linux experience, please lend a hand!
Thank you.
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