Grid cell content can be actionable and editable

[curtbellew]

The grid pattern currently suggests 3 different methods of accessing actionable and/or editable cell content. The F2 key, the Enter key, and Alphanumeric keys. The F2 key and Enter key have very similar functionality. We're looking for guidance on how to handle a situation where the grid cell contains one or more elements such as links that are clickable and also editable. A simple example might be a user grid where the first column is a user name that is clickable - taking you to a user detail page - and is also an updatable field.
https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/patterns/grid/#gridNav_inside

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<jugglinmike> Subtopic: Grid cell content can be actionable and editable
<jugglinmike> github: https://github.com//issues/2678
<jamesn> q+
<dmontalvo> ack me
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: It's not clear to me what the question is. Maybe we should talk about this when Curt is here.
<jamesn> ack me
<jugglinmike> jamesn: I agree, we should probably wait for Curt
<dmontalvo> q+
<jugglinmike> jamesn: I also don't think we should try to solve every single weird case of a grid, though this is not so weird of a case

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The ARIA Authoring Practices (APG) Task Force just discussed Grid cell content can be actionable and editable.

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<jugglinmike> subtopic: Grid cell content can be actionable and editable
<jugglinmike> github: https://github.com//issues/2678
<jugglinmike> (CurtBellew restates the problem)
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: A cell might have two different kinds of actions: one to update the contents, and one to perform some action (e.g. open a dialog)
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: Right now: a cell can do one of those two things, and the "Enter" and "F2" key will perform the same one of those
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: There aren't real conventions for this, yet
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: Google Sheets is modeled after Excel, and they're using similar design for this
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: The people asking about this are the authors of components that are widely used across all of Oracle
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: In one case, we have a field that is editable and also has a popup dialog. There's a lot of instruction to explain to users how to use that. If we could settle on a convention here (e.g. different behaviors for each of "Enter" and "F2"), then that could solve the problem. I don't know if that breaks the Internet or anything.
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: Or pressing "Enter" could just give people the options
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: I think that design-wise, there's interest in making this a "one-click" kind of action
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: You may want to check out Google Sheets for inspiration
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: Please don't put in instructions and please don't use aria-haspopup. In something like this, that would drive people bananas!
<jugglinmike> Matt_King: I think we should have a demo in APG that shows an advanced datagrid
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: I'd love to do that, but I'll see how much progress I make and how much else I have going at work
<jugglinmike> CurtBellew: Since there's nothing that's necessarily prescribed, then I'm comfortable closing this issue
<jugglinmike> Zakim, end the meeting

[mcking65]

Closing based on meeting discussion