Editorial: add <menu> to list role

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From the Living Standard:

The menu element is simply a semantic alternative to ul to express an unordered list of commands (a "toolbar").

According to ARIA in HTML, its implicit role is list.

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[scottaohara]

this is correct.

i recall saying this should be added the past, but it was mentioned that might be confusing due to the menu role (and tbh it is) - and that related concepts don't necessarily have to list all related concepts. so, stopping short of approving until others weigh in on this.

[MelSumner]

Thank you for doing this! 👍

[rahimabdi]

Looks good, thank you!

[scottaohara]

@pkra @spectranaut seems this can be marked as non-substantive and merged?

[pkra]

@scottaohara I personally found your argument in #2023 (comment) convincing to not do this. But I do not feel strongly about this at all.

[pkra]

@spectranaut @jnurthen what do you think about Scott's point?

[scottaohara]

well to be clear, it's more me relaying the point others made to me in the past about this.

i don't much mind one way or the other if this is merged. but it seemed like it was going that route since reviewers were assigned and approved the addition.

edit: per your commenting in older issues/PRs today, @pkra, you inadvertently(?) resurfaced the PR that i had originally called out adding <menu> where @jnurthen noted he didn't see the value - #1740 (comment)

[pkra]

edit: per your commenting in older issues/PRs today, @pkra, you inadvertently(?) resurfaced the PR that i had originally called out adding

where @jnurthen noted he didn't see the value - #1740 (comment)

hah, that was not intentional.

FWIW, I feel the same way as @jnurthen in the other PR:

I don't think it makes the spec any more understandable though as most devs would probably mistake the menu element for something useful

[jnurthen]

Thank you for the PR but closing this as there is no consensus that this makes the spec less confusing.
If you feel that this should be reconsidered please file an issue so we can discuss with the group.