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Use well defined normative language [Deque feedback] #371

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melaniephilipp opened this issue Feb 26, 2021 · 6 comments
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Use well defined normative language [Deque feedback] #371

melaniephilipp opened this issue Feb 26, 2021 · 6 comments
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migration: other Issues that do not fall into the other three categories section: Requirements Related to Silver Requirements document status: assigned to subgroup ask subgroup for proposal Subgroup: editors no specific subgroup (default)

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In order to have repeatable results, it is important for WCAG 3's requirements to be precisely defined, and not subject to change. This was done fairly well in WCAG 2, with well established and meaningful definitions. This does not appear to be the case for WCAG 3.0. It is unclear if this is by design, or if this is because this is simply an area that has not yet had focus by the working group.

In either case, Deque recommends to continue with, and hopefully improve on the approach that was taken in WCAG 2.0. All requirements should be normative, so that they can only be updated by going through the W3C recommendation process. All requirements should be unambiguously defined, so that there is only one possible meaning for each requirement.

Additionally Deque recommends that where possible, terminology shared in different software environments be adopted over terminology that is largely exclusive to the web. This was done for example by using the word "view" over "web page", but could also have been done by using "accessible name" in place of "text alternative".

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@rachaelbradley rachaelbradley added migration: core Issues that raise core questions that are still open for discussion section: Requirements Related to Silver Requirements document migration: other Issues that do not fall into the other three categories and removed migration: core Issues that raise core questions that are still open for discussion labels Aug 29, 2023
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alastc commented Jan 16, 2024

Sub-group response and update:


The sub-group proposes to add a design principles that says:

Normative requirements should be unambiguously defined, so that there is only one possible meaning for each requirement.

(Preview here, it is number 7 in the list under Design Principles.)

We already have the technology-neutral terminology in 4.4:
"Guidance should be expressed in generic terms so that they may apply to more than one platform or technology."

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Added "Define normative requirements unambiguously, so that there is only one possible meaning for each requirement. " which can be previewed in branch.

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I will not object, but I find this statement to itself be confusing.

I am not sure if this is trying for something along the lines of defining terms within requirements so that each term has only one possible meaning or along the lines of writing normative guidance in a way to ensure that the requirements to meet the guidance is clearly defined and understood.

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alastc commented Feb 27, 2024

Update from the meeting:
"Normative requirements should be unambiguous so there is only one possible meaning for each requirement."

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alastc commented Mar 21, 2024

Included in a catchup PR #736

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* Resolving issue 307 (minutes 27th Feb)

* Updating motivation

https://www.w3.org/2024/02/27-ag-minutes#item05

* Addressing #371
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