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LocalizedMenu: Localize Tool & Localized Menu #5665

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@zam1024t zam1024t commented Jul 9, 2016

Localize Tool & Localized Menu for Sublime Text 2/3 End User.

  • Provide a easy way to add new languages.
  • Support multiple version/platform.
  • Support share common menus.
  • Auto backup local menu.

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wbond commented Jul 18, 2016

This seems very similar to https://packagecontrol.io/packages/ChineseLocalizations, although I don't know many of the technical details.

Did you consider working with @rexdf to see if you could contribute features to that?

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rexdf commented Jul 19, 2016

Most of features have been included in ChineseLocalization, like multiple version/platform, and more, like OSX optimization, compatible with 3118. The quality of my translation is better.

I will consider to add a backup feature and tool menu.

I have been considering to support to localize any plugins for a while.

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由于这些原因,我不太想把LocalizeMenu合并到ChineseLocalization项目中:
1, 项目名字叫ChineseLocalization, 但却包含了除汉语之外的其它语言,这让我很迷糊。
2, 比如:我是一名芬兰的网站编辑,我平时就写点html代码,现在我要贡献一个芬兰语的翻译到ChineseLocalization中。
用ChineseLocalization我什么也做不了,因为我不会git,我只是一个终端用户,我不是一个开发者。
用LocalizedMenu,我可以在本地就把它翻译成芬兰语,然后不用提交到github也可以很好地工作,我可以自由地决定是分享或是私有。
一个开发者提交一种语言翻译到ChineseLocalization也不是一件很件很轻松,首先我要打包好成一个zip文件,然后还要等你硬编码代码,语言包才会生效。
https://github.com/rexdf/ChineseLocalization/blob/st3-dev/Localization.py
LANGS = { "ZH_CN": { 'zipfile': 'ZH_CN.zip', 'syntax_md5sum': '44cd99cdd8ef6c2c60c0a89d53a40b95' }, "ZH_TW": { "zipfile": "ZH_TW.zip", 'syntax_md5sum': "fe7457cfd227b7db74e785321f672c4a" }, "JA_JP": { "zipfile": "JA_JP.zip", 'syntax_md5sum': "037128b8f8d2616c7239d8e9a7183b4c" }, # "EN": { # This item is deprecated and not used in programming. # "zipfile": "EN.zip", # 'syntax_md5sum': ( # "2667c3fe5c1102274051920b1f581adb", # "ecd966996f5fcaff6fac2a281bec93d5", # 3099+ # ) # } }
3, 最关键的一点,我们的着重点不一样。你关注的是翻译的质量,我关注的是它是是不是一个好用的翻译工具,我希望任何人都可以很方便地使用它,可以很自由地添加各个版本各种语言的翻译,可以选择共享或私有。

我不太在乎语言翻译本身的质量,因为每个人都有自己的语言习惯,而且我个人懂的语言了不多,即便我再能干我懂的语种也是有限的,我希望比我在行的人可以很轻易地去添加/修正/完善各种语言的翻译。

作为一个汉语翻译的项目, ChineseLocalization是一个好项目。
作为一个翻译工具,LocalizedMenu是一个好工具。

我应该把LocalizedMenu改名为LocalizeTool再提交到插件库中吗?


For these reasons i do not want to merge LocalizedMenu into ChineseLocalization:
1, Project named ChineseLocalization, but included not only chinese translation, that made me confused.
2, For example, i am a finnish website editor, usually i write some html code, then i want submit an finnish translation for sublime menu.
With ChineseLocalization, i can do nothing, becuase has no git skill, i am only a editor user, not a developer.
With LocalizedMenu, I can translate it on local without submit, works well. It is free to me share the translation or keep it private.
With ChineseLocalization, it is too hard to submit a transation.
After translation i must package the languages files as a zip file, then pull request to your repo.
When you receve the pull request, you must change your hard-code to add this language!
https://github.com/rexdf/ChineseLocalization/blob/st3-dev/Localization.py
LANGS = { "ZH_CN": { 'zipfile': 'ZH_CN.zip', 'syntax_md5sum': '44cd99cdd8ef6c2c60c0a89d53a40b95' }, "ZH_TW": { "zipfile": "ZH_TW.zip", 'syntax_md5sum': "fe7457cfd227b7db74e785321f672c4a" }, "JA_JP": { "zipfile": "JA_JP.zip", 'syntax_md5sum': "037128b8f8d2616c7239d8e9a7183b4c" }, # "EN": { # This item is deprecated and not used in programming. # "zipfile": "EN.zip", # 'syntax_md5sum': ( # "2667c3fe5c1102274051920b1f581adb", # "ecd966996f5fcaff6fac2a281bec93d5", # 3099+ # ) # } }
3, The most important is that you care the translation quality but i care the tool itself if easy to use.

I know a few languages, even i kown many languages, the quantity is also limited, but i hope anyone can use the tool to add/correct/improve more languages, can free to keep it public or private.

As a chinese translation project, ChineseLocalization is better.
As a localize tool, LocalizedMenu is better.

Should i named LocalizedMenu as LocalizeTool to submit?

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rexdf commented Jul 20, 2016

Project named ChineseLocalization, but included not only chinese translation, that made me confused.

Maybe I can use a different name. But now, there are just chinese and japanese.

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In order to reduce the time complexity, I use hash O(1). The zip package is for release.

With ChineseLocalization, it is too hard to submit a transation.

Nope, I will never accept zip pull request. Just submit a translation as code, I will make a zip release.

The most important is that you care the translation quality but i care the tool itself if easy to use.

I don't think that the tool itself is easy to use. Sublime Text English Menu is public, it is unnecessary to have a private local translation.

If you have to, you can install Zip Browser and make easily a localization. Why do we need to use an extra plugin to edit json and update menu by event bind to consume CPU? And why not directly edit Main.sublime-menu? Nor even a feature like JSON L18n Resources Editor.

Some bugs:

  1. Your plugin supports English(en) English(en_US) English(en_GB), but actually, it does not even support sublimetext built-in English menu.
  2. Your plugin can just use a plugin version of sublimetext menu, and cannot use version appropriate translation(even English).

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rexdf commented Jul 20, 2016

Now ChineseLocalization supports User-Defined language translation.

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(In order to reduce mistake for my expression in english, I added an extra chinese comments.)
(为了避免我用英文表达出现偏差,还是每句都带上中文。汗!)

  1. Your plugin supports English(en) English(en_US) English(en_GB), but actually, it does not even support sublimetext built-in English menu.

Not a bug. en_US/en_GB now is link to en, if you have to make translation diff for en_GB/en_US, you can remove the links then translate them.
这不是一个BUG. 现在en_US/en_GB都链接到en这个语言上,如果你硬要区分en_US/en_GB,那么你可以把链接删除掉然后去翻译一遍。

  1. Your plugin can just use a plugin version of sublimetext menu, and cannot use version appropriate translation(even English).

I can not clearly understand what you means, you are allow to use chinese.
你说的这个问题我不是很理解,你可以用中文表达一下。

Now ChineseLocalization supports User-Defined language translation.

Nice.
挺好的。

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rexdf commented Jul 20, 2016

Your plugin cannot be installed by Packagecontrol in fresh installed Sublime Text 3118. And menu item is not fit for different version of sublime text.

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Your plugin cannot be installed by Packagecontrol in fresh installed Sublime Text 3118.

Before merged, I have no idea to this.

And menu item is not fit for different version of sublime text.

I know this.

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rexdf commented Jul 20, 2016

PackageControl supports github url install. My plugin supports all versions of Sublime Text.

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Support dev version would be a later work.

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@wbond I has discus with @rexdf, them are quite different for designing, i would like to add LocalizedMenu as a new plugin.

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rexdf commented Jul 20, 2016

I think that they are same plugins to localize sublime text, although the technical details are different. I don't think this plugin is necessary.

@wbond wbond merged commit 7ea42b1 into wbond:master Jul 20, 2016
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