Gray Bars on Sony AF8 after being updated to version 21. #25166
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The "some reason" is that this Sony workaround broke Dolby Visions on multiple other devices ... good enough for "some reason" I'd say ... |
We need a way to enable it back, it kinda sucks it worked for 5 years, now all of a sudden it doesn't. Maybe add an advancedsetting so people with the Hardware can enable it. You don't really fix an issue if you remove something that hasnt caused people issues for the last 5 years. People can live without Dolby vision and stick with normal HDR until a middle ground is found. But those with SONY TV is basically unusable can't watch any HDR Stuff... |
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Middle ground as in: Ask Sony to fix it? Your device was very expensive, right? |
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For the record: And also for the record: Painting it "black" caused issues for everyone else. As can be seen from above links: it's a Sony firmware bug, the vendor does not care. |
Yes i know of this, and i know it is Sony fault, yes the TV is also expensive 2k $ 5 years ago. And Yes Sony doesnt care and i dont think they will ever fix it. They have moved on. Is there no way to make this toggable through a config no hope for the future ? |
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I will look at it tomorrow and see. I made the original fix. The transparency we basically added there cause even a performance issue for some machines. After all the FireTV devices started to appear - the workaround even caused active issues with not only the performance. Fun-Fact: It even killed some LiveTV experience for other Sony users who need to watch LiveTV with SW decoder + deinterlacer - but I cannot remember all details - as you already said: it's 6 years ago. Will check once more, if we can "actively" alter the View's background color and make it dynamic. While I check again - I remember that this exactly was the issue. It's either one or the other. @quietvoid I think you had a look at this as well, we basically could not change the color? @Kristijan1001 there is one new setting for "OSD brightness" when playing HDR content - it's an overlay menu which tunes the shaders used for GLES output. Does changing this bar change the grey color? |
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Okay - I read it up: xbmc/libandroidjni#43 <- theoretically based on this, we could create such an advancedsetting. @quietvoid what was your intention back then? Expose a setting? |
It was an attempt at setting the background at runtime and it worked. |
I will have to try that and report back. Also just to mention again , its not only the black bars that are gray, the whole menu washed out like the whole OSD pause play buttons etc. It looks like HDR is being applied to the movie but not to the UI. |
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Yes, that is what that new setting is for - so please report back if that makes a difference / changes the color tones - screenshots are welcome. |
I tested it this morning before work i didnt see difference between 0% and 100%. When i get back i will test it again and take photos and compare to make sure. |
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First testbuild: https://jenkins.kodi.tv/job/android-arm-docker/6548/artifact/kodi-20240509-62ad1ec2-decorview-armeabi-v7a.apk - please backup your stuff, this is master based. Use: for testing. I am currently travelling (public holidays in Germany) I did not runtime test / debug it ... it might crash on start right away. |
OK Tested. Gui Stuff for HDR doesnt change the Gray Bars. The build you provided crashes Kodi on startup, the start up bar filles up then crashes. Then crashes instantly on every boot. Here is picture of how it looks:
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Debuglog would be great from the testbuild. But yeah - I expected that ;-) but luck would sometimes be great. I will change the position when I change to transparency. |
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New test: |
No changes, Unless the advanced settings xml structure is wrong, Here it is just to check and make sure , Placed in userdata. HDR10+ Disabled and Dolby disabled in KODI, Still Gray borders. |
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Post your debuglog please. |
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2024-05-11 09:19:27.508 T:10471 info : No settings file to load (special://xbmc/system/advancedsettings.xml) |
Sorry rookie mistake had it as .txt. still gray tho here is log |
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Yeah - here - I am still blindly building. As Android start is partly asynchroneous I want to find the sweet spot to trigger it without running into issues: https://jenkins.kodi.tv/job/android-arm-docker/6595/ <- please try the resulting APk once it is finished - it will print something. It might crash again - due to setting the value on display change ... let's find out. Thanks. PS: Starting next week I have my environment back - and won't send blind changes ;-) |
Crashes on Startup |
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logfile please :-) - after that I create a new one. |
Sorry for late reply. Gray bars still. Thanks. |
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Okay - too bad - code is called. Let's wait for the others input in the Pull-Request. |
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So - you meean - the PR works for you? I am personally not yet happy, cause of yet another ifdef in application - but - it's not so easy to find the right spot, right after gui and splash is initialized ... |
No, it doesn't work. |
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So this cannot be fixed? |
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Did Sony answer this to your support request? Please do so and post their official reply here, then it's at least documented and we have a public official statement to see if they "can/ want" fix it or not ... Kodi cannot fix it in general, it can only workaround / mitigate it for Sony ... work week here -> busy. |
I never posted a support request to Sony, This is not an issue that also appeared recently. It has been like this for years. There have been many people that have asked about this and it has never been fixed. Me asking is just another needle in the stack. If they wanted to or could fix it, they would have already. This is a 5 Year old TV. Even if they answered, you would get the Typical PR answer, they will never say if they can fix it or want to fix it. Anyways i know it is a workaround i really hope this gets implemented. Thanks for your work so far it is appreciated. |
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Hello folks! I also own a Sony TV. Model: SONY KD-55XE9005 Since the update via Google Play Store, the following problems have occurred:
I like Kodi, and I am also grateful for the program and have supported the project financially several times, but since the last update I have been very, very unhappy! Especially because of the gray bars that were previously black in HDR videos! Question: How can I undo the update from version 21 without having to re-enter all of my painstakingly entered network links? Best regards from Germany |
Yeah it is a weird decision from the Kodi Team to break support for one devices, just to add support for other devices. The trade off just doesnt make sense, all HDR Content broken on pletora of devices, just to fix a bug with Dolby Vision on some devices which is not really widly used much, not even a windows desktop pc supports dolby vision. Kodi is now unusable. Seems really niche to break normal generic playback for Sony Android TVs , just to add niche support for dolby where not many people will even use it, and even if it didnt work it can always fall back to HDR instead, then we will all have at least usable Kodi. Honestly i lost hope for this and went back to the old Kodi build. I will use it until addons no longer work i guess, but in general this sucks. |
That's the intended look 😉 (see https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/blob/21.0-Omega/media/splash.jpg) |
As far as I know, my SONY KD-55XE9005 doesn't know Dolby Vision at all, it can only do RGB, HLG and HDR10 formats, and I don't have much else to choose from in the Sony settings menu. I changed the color values on the Sony TV from BT 2020 to BT 709 and also tested RGB. Afterwards, there were no useful changes when playing with Kodi. The films where the black bars were removed still showed gray bars. As already written, films where the black bars were not removed still have their black bars, unfortunately most of my films have removed black bars, so I now have these ugly gray bars in many films. I converted my entire Blu-ray collection that I own with Staxrip, and removed the black bars with Crop to save storage space and made the video image a bit larger. I don't think Sony will ever be interested in fixing this error or problem. Because original films with black bars don't cause any problems! It only affects the converted films where the black bars have been removed! Sony could see something like that as a pirated copy and will therefore hardly change anything about it 😉 since I have a lot of original films, I wanted to copy a large part of them to my hard drive and then stream them via Kodi on my Android SONY KD-55XE9005, so I don't have to constantly search for or change a Blu-ray, it's much more convenient. It worked wonderfully until I installed the new Kodi update. I bought an Android TV years ago specifically so I didn't have to run everything via an external Android box, even if my Sony can only do 1080p via Android, the Android hardware in the Sony doesn't do more than that. 4K only works via HDMI, which isn't a problem, the film picture in 1080p is good enough. As I wrote, it's not necessarily a mistake by Sony, but perhaps more of a measure against non-original Blu-ray disc material where the black bars have been removed. A friend of mine has a new Android Sony TV, and he has the same problem as me since the Kodi update and his TV is NEW and up to date! But that doesn't help us now, I won't buy another brand or a new TV as long as mine is still good (besides, my TV wasn't exactly cheap or inexpensive years ago). Maybe the Kodi program authors will have mercy and build something into the Kodi software that can help people like us Sony TV owners to get black bars in the videos again. That would be nice, thanks!!! Best regards |
Yes, exactly, that's what the Kodi boot logo looks like on my SONY KD-55XE9005, a bit destroyed since the update! Best regards |
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Forgot, here again all the errors I have had since updating to Kodi 21:
I forgot to mention point 3! Best regards |
It's not destroyed, that is the intended look. It's an artistic choice. |
aha... Personally, I don't think that was the best decision 😉 Best regards Thanks for the info! |
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For Sony, which does not care for their buying users at all: https://jenkins.kodi.tv/job/android-arm-docker/6741/artifact/kodi-20240529-e25b9b88-sony-armeabi-v7a.apk |
It works Thank you very much really apricate it. Note to SONY users, if ur TV doesnt have HDR+ dont disable it only disable Dolby Other wise with Dolby Enabled movies will lag and with both disabled they will also lag again. Turning off adjust HDR also lags if i remember correctly. Contrarily to the Retail Version where disabling both HDR10+ and Dolby wasnt lagging. Tested on Dolby and HDR Files, Enabled Dolby lagged on Dolby files. |
Link ist not working hmmmmmm,..... Can you help me please? THANX from germany |
https://www.mediafire.com/file/v9ubxfqiduptbnn/kodi-20240529-e25b9b88-sony-armeabi-v7a+(1).apk/file Here you go, dunno if it gets auto deleted but this will prolly go in the main kodi build at some point i assume ? |
Thank you, thank you! :-) The main thing is that I can watch my videos normally again. Does anyone know if you can just install it or will my network settings be lost? Greetings |
i would suggest making a backup of kodi usedata, this is still experimental and u dont want to screw up ur main build for the future |
If only I hadn't updated to the new version, everything worked before. Now I have to spend another 2 or 3 hours resetting all the settings I had... if it works, I don't think I'll update again as long as the TV is alive ;-) |
You can still use your old settings, just make a backup of them. |
Sony TVs have a long standing firmware bug. Allow a user to configure the video layout background color to workaround this. Fixes xbmc#25166 Usage: <advancedsettings version="1.0"> <gui> <transparentvideolayout>true</transparentvideolayout> </gui> </advancedsettings>
Sony TVs have a long standing firmware bug. Allow a user to configure the video layout background color to workaround this. Fixes xbmc#25166 Usage: <advancedsettings version="1.0"> <gui> <transparentvideolayout>true</transparentvideolayout> </gui> </advancedsettings>
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@Kristijan1001 @Ragnaroeko Here's a build from #25300: https://jenkins.kodi.tv/job/android-arm-docker/6807/artifact/kodi-20240602-8078f224-PR25300-armeabi-v7a.apk Can someone test it? |
Bug report
Gray Bars on Sony TV after v21
Describe the bug
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Playing videos shows Gray Bars and Washed out UI instead of Black Bars. Enabling Dolby fixes it but video lags hard.
Expected Behavior
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Movie to have black bars.
Actual Behavior
Movie has Gray Bars.
Possible Fix
Apparently this was already fixed long time ago but for some reason reverted to fix some issues other people had. The thing is you can't just remove something that has been working for 5 Years. You just made the reverse now, we are having issues and this "other" people don't have them. How about a middle ground. Don't push fixes until both groups are satisfied or an option is introduced to enable the fix.
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=376806&pid=3189708
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=371557&pid=3189636#pid3189636
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Not doing that sorry, Issue is well known.
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Gray vs Black
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https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=376806&pid=3189708
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=371557&pid=3189636#pid3189636
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[X ] Android
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Kodi version: 21
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