Jquery dependency

[fabiocarneiro]

Do you really think is a good idea to have a asset as dependency of a PHP FRAMEWORK?

Do you really need this bower-asset/jquery thing? Can you explain how it is used by php?

[ricardofiorani]

I got your point, but yes. Yii comes with various widgets wich are jquery dependants.
But in a near future I think the team are going to separate yii in modules so only the modules that requires jquery will actually depend on it. But for now, will be the way it is.

EDIT: I should really answered "Yes, it is." but it would look as a joke.

[samdark]

That's already in a list of ides for 2.1.

[fabiocarneiro]

So release it very fast. Do it today. That's really not acceptable.

If what @ricardofiorani said is true, move all that to some sort of default application. A php framework should never provide or depend on "jquery code".

[samdark]

You're welcome to provide a pull request to speed things up ;)

[nkovacs]

Yii has several core features that require jquery, not just some widgets. For example, View::registerJs with View::POS_READY or View::POS_LOAD requires jquery, so does ActiveForm (client-side and ajax validation), or YiiAsset which inserts an ajax prefilter that automatically adds the csrf token so you don't have to deal with that every time you do an ajax call.
These are useful, for example you don't have to implement validation twice, once in a php framework and once in a javascript framework, since Yii has already implemented it in php and jquery.
So yes, it's very much acceptable.

[samdark]

Well, it could be improved i.e. all this functionality could be moved to an extension which is required from application template's composer.json. So, for example, one could build REST API or console app w/o having this code around.

It's not a huge thing though since Yii deals well with lazy loading classes so if it's not used in particular app it won't ever be autoloaded. So the issue is more about formal correctness and maybe simplifying core framework by moving clientside part into optional package.

[felixfbecker]

The whole section in the guide about RESTful services is needless if it is not possible to compoer require yii without installing bower-asset globally and jQuery...

[felixfbecker]

But in a near future I think the team are going to separate yii in modules so only the modules that requires jquery will actually depend on it

Is there a tracking issue for this? For example, it would be nice if one could use only the ActiveRecord of Yii.

[samdark]

The requirement of jQuery is just a couple of files which are never touched if you're developing REST service only. Should not be huge issue considering storage sizes nowadays. Still worth fixing, of course.

There's no plan to decouple AR functionality from the core. At least at this stage.

[felixfbecker]

@samdark The problem is not file size. The problem is that composer fails to install yii if I don't have bower-asset installed globally. Which means I have to explain my project lead that to deploy the REST API, they have to install bower-asset via composer first, so it can download jQuery, so it can install Yii.

[samdark]

Yeah. It's already planned to change it. btw., project lead who's not aware about framework used for the project is kinda weird situation.

[cebe]

they have to install bower-asset via composer first, so it can download jQuery

there is a workaround btw: #8709 (comment)

[klimov-paul]

Merged into #8452