Support for Passkeys (macOS)

[bengiv]

When trying to log in with a passkey on a website it just asks for a security key.
In Firefox 122 the passkey feature was first introduced and should work(on macOS) with macOS 14 Sonoma or newer.
I would greatly appreciate if this feature could also be added to Zen

[NOCanoa]

Just to add I am using PassKeys on windows whit Bitwarden no problems.

[bengiv]

Just to add I am using PassKeys on windows whit Bitwarden no problems.

How is it with windows 11 passkeys, because you can also store passkeys on windows 11 and also use your phones passkeys to sign in.

With Bitwarden being a browser extensions that that is why it works

[NOCanoa]

If it doesn't recognize a password manager extension then it just open the windows default passkeys blabla.

[bengiv]

(Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/identity-protection/passkeys/?tabs=windows)
this one?

[bengiv]

if so, its only a macOS problem then

[NOCanoa]

yeah

[bengiv]

yea then its a problem on macOS

[NOCanoa]

Do you want to use a passmanager or apple built in?

[bengiv]

Apple, iCloud Passwords, Keychain or whatever its called, where Apple saves Passkeys by default

[NOCanoa]

Ahh ok, i ave no idea of apple stuff xD

[bdbch]

I would be nice if Zen could recognize different Passkey methods. Right now it goes straight for the Security Key.

Other browsers I've used do the following priority:

1. Password Manager
2. OS level
3. Hardware Keys / Security Keys

I think I've seen some special cases (from Google?) where it tells you to use your phone to validate the Passkey.

[mauro-balades]

I think that should be Mozilla's job as anything related to security/sensible information should rather be handled by a company instead of a single developer. Hope you understand.

Im gonna close the issue but feel free to open it if you want!

[bdbch]

I think Firefox itself supports this right? Can't test it right now but last time I was using Passkeys I think it worked on there.

Does that have something to do with browser & system related keys that Zen (and also Floorp) don't have?

[bengiv]

Firefox has it

[bengiv]

This is what happens in Zen

[mauro-balades]

What firefox version is that?

[bengiv]

What firefox version is that?

newest stable version

[raff]

It's possible that the issue is that while Zen supports passkeys (via Firefox) it doesn't tell the system that they are supported. If I look in my Macos settings I see this:

And I am pretty sure the first time I used in one of those two browsers I was asked if I wanted to enable it.
Having said that, I am not sure of where that information is (my guess is that is done similar to the way an application asks to use the network or other resources)

[MaxNeedsSnacks]

From what I remember, passkeys are a privileged intent that needs to be specifically requested from Apple here, and most other browsers I tried that are forks of Firefox (e.g. Floorp) or Chrome (e.g. Arc) seem to have this same issue. Apparently it works if you use a password manager that doesn't interact with the native backend for passkeys (like... I think Bitwarden?), but in my case, I'm using Strongbox so I've ran into this countless times already ^^;

[raff]

Ok, I do use Bitwarden but I am getting the native password manager most of the times.

[tsuliwaensis]

This should be re-opened as a feature request. If Zen wants to be considered a first-class citizen like Safari, Chrome, and Firefox then it needs to have feature parity.