allow to load multiple images into one book

[Bacchushlg]

Actually it is not possible to create one book out of multiple single images.
Only in case of a multipage TIFF or PDF a book with several pages is created.
It would be fine to allow to add pages to an already open book in order to create one common output file for export.

[hbitteur]

I agree

[hbitteur]

Hi Baruch,

I'm thinking about features very similar to the ones provided by PDF-SAM (PDF Split And Merge) utility.
Could you have a look at their site https://pdfsam.org/pdfsam-basic/ and tell me if you feel comfortable with these features (replacing their PDF containers by our BOOK containers, of course).

Rather than re-inventing the wheel...

[hbitteur]

Beside Split and Merge, PDF-SAM also allows Extract that might be of interest for you.
See by yourself.

[Bacchushlg]

I seldom have pdf scores as source, mostly I have paper notes. After scanning I mostly do some manual correction (esp. fine rotation and a bit contrast improvement).
Sometimes I make TIFFs from this (could be pdf, too, of course) in order to get the score handled as one to avoid the described problem.
But there is one disadvantage: If I see that my imaging improvement was not successful, the transcription will still run for the complete score (all pages).
Therefore meanwhile I abstain from the latter (for bad score images) and do the transcription page by page.

And here, I come back to the above: a feature to "connect" all open pages to get a common export file.

[hbitteur]

So this "connect" action could be equivalent to the "merge" feature of PDF-SAM:

• Ability to select several books (and perhaps some sheets in these books)
• And merge everything as a single book

[Bacchushlg]

The important thing is to be able to merge after loading. So pages of a score can be transcribed page by page but then exported as one mxl-file

[hbitteur]

To avoid any misunderstanding, let me clarify that I'm trying to define the specifications for Audiveris split & merge features.

In this exercice, PDF-SAM is a good model, it has evolved along many years, it is well documented, etc... My intention is not to push for use of PDF-SAM, but merely to more or less "replicate" the PDF-SAM features and user interface into Audiveris software.

This is the reason why I asked you to review these PDF-SAM features (Split, Merge, Extract) and then tell me if you would be happy with similar features within Audiveris.

We are working at specification level for the time being.

[Bacchushlg]

Ah, ok. This was my mis-understanding.
But, to be honest, this is much more than what I asked for.
I thought of just one "simple" feature: create a common export for all opened tabs, even if they come from different image files.

The only thing that might be necessary is to allow to re-sort the pages (tabs), either by drag-n-drop (like most browsers allow), or by a list window that allows to do the resorting (e.g. similar to what MuseScore shows in the instruments dialog on the right). This would allow to re-open (and transcribe) a single page from the already loaded list of pages (after some image improvements from an external tool)

[hbitteur]

I agree that these features may be more than what you strictly need for the specific case you described.
But rather to design something specific, I prefer to stick to a set of well-thought operations.
Granted, implementation may take longer but, doing so, I feel more comfortable with the final suitability for the end-user.

[hbitteur]

Let's take your example, using PDF-SAM as the model
I suppose you have:

• A book B20 of 20 sheets. This book can be the result of the aggregation of smaller books, perhaps including 1-page books, etc, I don't really care.

Now, you have a problem with say sheet 10 for which you need to work on image improvement, or get a better scan, etc.
Then, once you are OK with a new version of image for sheet 10, you need to somehow replace sheet 10 in book B20 by your new version.
So, you make a Merge of the following list:

1. B20 sheets "1-9"
2. Your new image 10
3. B20 sheets "11-"

And you get your new book.

[Bacchushlg]

Perfect.

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[hbitteur]

Commit 0b414c1 provides the feature in development branch.
Handbook to be updated accordingly.