Police Tonfa - Sec Stun Baton alternative #10112
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This reverts commit 68de4ce.
Adds a wooden baton. Included in sectech vendor.
Reduced cooldown to imitate regular combat.
Changes how the weapon functions upon targeting different body parts. Nerfs knockdown to the ground.
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Made changes to adress finger's concerns. Have updated the PR to reflect them. |
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How is this different from the billy club, flavor wise? |
I like how the Billy Club feels, but you can't use it for arrests because of the damage it deals according to the rules. Also the billy club has no solo stamina loss option. I would be fine with moving these changes to the billy club (on intents other than HARM) if you think its better! But I liked the idea of "billy club lite" I also intended to sprite this black in the future, if I'm able to figure that out and perhaps add different sounds. Depends on how its received by everyone! However, I should note it behaves more like classic batons already in the game than the billy club! And the billy club already has its niche in breaking windows and shields! |
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As OP pointed, Billy Club purpose is to break shields and smash windows with the bonus of cracking some skulls open. This item looks interesting and seems like a fairly better version than what the det and heads of staff get, unsure about the sleep resetting stam damage it's an.. interesting interaction? but i'm sure it could cause more missplays than anything. Specially as you pointed it out, when another officer is helping you arrest someone, considering that Sec is supposed to play as a team that would end up happening a lot and could become quite frustrating, if anything at least it requires to target the head but i don't see the logic on a bash to the head that puts you to sleep and heals your stam damage |
Hey Morgan! This was only a solution made so that the player wouldn't be able to lock some into sleep forever. My idea being that the sleep is long enough for even the newest sec players to handcuff them. However, having consecutive hits heal stam damage is a bad solution and I've thought of a better way to do it now! Will update today!! Thank you for your feedback! |
Changes how the knock out blow to the head works. Adds a sound, an emote and flavour text to it. Also adds force say. Reverts changes made to how new attacks would heal the targets stam damage. Also adds a cooldown to a batons ability to sleep (20 seconds) Added some lines to make code easier to read.
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New changes made to the head attack. Describing them above shortly. |
Capitalizes the O in "Knock-Out!" to make it more like something you'd see in a fighting game.
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Edited the change log as I didn't know exactly how it was used. This, I believe, is ready for review! |
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This is more personal preference, but RNG combat sucks. Sometimes it'll fuck you, sometimes it'll save you. It'd be more consistent with the rest of the baton if the leg sweep had a 100% chance of applying on the fifth strike since that's where it'd average out since the sleep already applies past a certain amount of hits already |
Good idea! I do agree with you! I also don't think RNG combat is good. I could make it so it trips you past a point indeed, but that would make you be able to knockdown lock people, unless I also add.... Hold on, I'll add stamina regen to both the disarm and leg trip! Thank you Darn for the idea!! Uh I just rethinked this. Don't think it would be that simple for the legs, however I will think of a way to do it for arms FURTHERMORE: I should add the trip is merely there for flavor, there is significant combat advantage to making the target trip for such a small time span I can think of! |
Does this mean it is staying RNG? Not very clear lol. As for knockdown locking people, if they have enough time to whack your legs enough to keep you knocked down indefinitely you would have stayed stunned anyway. I do disagree with your last bitm knockdowns are quite powerful. They are a big time slow, and if you knock someone on the floor you can quickly shove them over and start a grab fight over whatever they are holding. Harder to pull off than it was pre nerf but it stops them from clicking on you which is pretty good imo. |
What I meant was that this knock down lasts less than a second. Its there more for flavour other than anything. |
Adds some balance changes to ensure limb damage cannot be cheesed to reach stam crit faster. Also adds a new get_staminaloss proc for limbs.
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Made some adjustments related to @DarnTheMarn 's concerns. Nevermind, the program farted on me, will need to re-record. In the meantime will adjust a small number value which escaped me with the hole bunch of code I had to make for this. |
Missed some of the original values in recoding. They are now back.
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Tweaked some numbers back to what they where before I rewrote everything. |
Replaces the weapon cooldown by a per target. Adds diminishing returns to random limb switching. Cleans up the code some. Adds the funny sound to tripping. Adds proper logs and attack messages. People on the ground can't be tripped anymore. I think thats it.
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This is now at a very epic state. I'm finally happy. |
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In addition to tring to adress Jix's concerns, I'm currently making a sprite for this item |
I don't think that link is working! Also regarding balance, I felt that that could be changed later, I think the stun baton is too strong so I made this with that in mind! |
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Try now |
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converting this to draft while I don't fix what need fixing |
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I had a thought, since this is purchasable from the vendor, what's to stop any security officer from just batoning people to stamina crit, then bonking them on the head with this repeatedly to knock them and keep them unconscious. That would effectively make escaping a non starter even if you had a freedom implant or a buddy with you and is not very fun. |
The sleep mechanic has a per mob cooldown. So while you can use a stun baton and then this as opposed to using a flash lets say, you can't keep them down forever. You can theoretically keep them down for as long as your stun baton is charged, but if I remember correctly this has like a 16 second cooldown. And when you're knocked unconscious you're healed of stamina damage. So it would be a challenge, but its more a stun baton problem haha |
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Also people is most likely to use the baton as the go-to in most scenarios, if a meta develop around that it can be tweaked Does this tonfa do any brute damage or just stamina damage? And what kind of sounds does it do when hitting? The one similar to det baton? |
Stamina damage only in any intent but harm. Theres a video of it! Yes it does the det sound effect! I doubt this would be much used by how weak it is, but I'll have to see how people use it to change the damage levels accordingly |
That doesn't matter, the hypothetical gamer would use the stun baton to get them down and then use this to keep them down permanently. What is the per mob cooldown, it should be pretty high considering sleep is a win condition you shouldn't need to proc it very often. |
I thought I replied to this. The cooldown is of 16 seconds. |
Co-authored-by: itsmeow <itsmeow@itsmeow.dev>
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I buffed stamina damage on chest and head to more plausible numbers. Also added stamina damage to harm intent to compensate for how low the brute damage is, its the same as the brute damage, but will probably help if you decide to switch intents in the middle of the fight. |
Portuje tonfę z: BeeStation/BeeStation-Hornet#10112 aq33#264
* Farting Adds farting to Bee Station * Revert "Farting" This reverts commit 68de4ce. * Adds Wooden Baton Adds a wooden baton. Included in sectech vendor. * Reduced Cooldown Reduced cooldown to imitate regular combat. * Tripping & Disarm change Changes how the weapon functions upon targeting different body parts. Nerfs knockdown to the ground. * Changes to Head targeting behaviour + Removing Stamheal on attack Changes how the knock out blow to the head works. Adds a sound, an emote and flavour text to it. Also adds force say. Reverts changes made to how new attacks would heal the targets stam damage. Also adds a cooldown to a batons ability to sleep (20 seconds) Added some lines to make code easier to read. * Capitalization Capitalizes the O in "Knock-Out!" to make it more like something you'd see in a fighting game. * Balance Adjustements and New Proc Adds some balance changes to ensure limb damage cannot be cheesed to reach stam crit faster. Also adds a new get_staminaloss proc for limbs. * Small Number Tweak Missed some of the original values in recoding. They are now back. * The Near-Prefection update. Replaces the weapon cooldown by a per target. Adds diminishing returns to random limb switching. Cleans up the code some. Adds the funny sound to tripping. Adds proper logs and attack messages. People on the ground can't be tripped anymore. I think thats it. * New Naming and Sprite A new name to the Baton, now its called OMNI Beater. Also has a new sprite and all that jazz * Code Fix, Cooldown Fix, and Damage Buff Fixes Cooldown - By Lucy Tweaks the numbers a bit. * oups, small number tweak I made a mistake * Name Change Just a name change * its good now * Kat simplification Co-authored-by: itsmeow <itsmeow@itsmeow.dev> * Concerns adressed and buff * added stamina damage on harm --------- Co-authored-by: itsmeow <itsmeow@itsmeow.dev>
About The Pull Request
This adds a new subtype of police baton, the Wooden Baton and places it up for purchase in the sectech vendor.
The idea was copying the deputy baton and change it so it feels better to play with and is more available.
The baton inherits most regular baton traits however the following is different:
Targeting the torso is the fastest way to stam crit.
Targeting the head will knock the target unconscious if his stamina damage is above 89.
Targeting the hands will disarm the person after 3 hits.
Targeting the legs makes the target trip.
A Huge Huge thanks to Haliris, without him losing like 3 hours explaining things to me this would have never happened.
Another Huge thanks to Absolucy who helped me with the cooldown and emoting.
Also a hearty thanks to Benbot, Tonty and Dejaku for giving me what I needed to figure out how to solve my problem!
Why It's Good For The Game
It's meant to add an interesting alternative to the stun baton. Thus creating more RP opportunities for different types of characters (flavor).
It's meant to FEEL like combat without actually hurting the individual and meant to give a better conclusion to an arrest than a 2 tap stun baton if the suspect decides to fight.
It also would be difficult to type bait someone into stamcrit with this weapon.
By giving different limb targeting different outcomes more flavor is added to how the player decides to roleplay with the weapon.
Adds tactical depth as to which limb to target.
Concerns
Since I couldn't really force a custom emote I had to go through a different route of making a Knock-Out very clear. It may be a little too immersion-breaking right now and more on the funny side. I personally enjoy it but it is currently not at the level I wanted it to be.
I was unable to test both the Force Say and Knock-out at the same time for obvious reasons. It SHOULD work currently, but I have no proof other than the chatbox text disappearing as seen on the video.
📝Tweaks done, only thing left to do if possible is to make the emote show up in runechat how I originally intended, but this can be done at a later date.
Testing Photographs and Procedure
Screenshots&Videos
🆕CURRENT STATE:
https://youtu.be/TroaLrOI5aU
Changelog
🆑 PinkSuzuki feat Absolucy
Added: Police Tonfa
Added: Police Tonfa available at SecTech Vendor.
On this Weapon, limb attacks work as such on any intent but harm:
When Knocked-Out the target will be healed of all stamina damage.
Knock-Out has a duration of 8 seconds and a Cool-Down of 16 seconds (per target).
Disarm happens at 3 hits unarmored. 8 hits unarmored to Stam-Crit.
Attacking a Stam-Disabled leg trips the target. This ability has a 3-second cooldown (per target).
Tripping has a duration of 0.7 seconds.
Limb disabled at 2 hits unarmored. 7 hits unarmored to stam crit.
Harm Intent deals 8 brute damage and 8 stamina damage.
Code: Added a get_staminaloss proc for item/bodypart
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