(Bug) Unable to run Chia using Windows on AMD K10 architecture (AMD Phenom)

[byme1991]

What happened?

hello, I would like someone to help me. this is how the chia app works for me on 1.8.2. since I want a stronger version, when I install 2.0 or 2.0.1 I have a problem. the problem is the following. When entering the application, it always says Loading keyring status.... what should I do? thank you

Version

2.0.0 - 2.0.1

What platform are you using?

Windows

What ui mode are you using?

GUI

Relevant log output

Loading keyring status

[shaneo257]

hi, it could mean it's an invalid config.yaml depending on how long it has been spinning. To check you could close Chia, restart your computer, rename the config file, then restart Chia. If it loads up as intended then something is likely wrong with the config after copying over the custom settings

[ValeryLikavets]

День добрый. Та же проблема. Система вин 10 и вин 11. Версия 1.8.2 работает. А 2.0.1 никак.

[newland33]

same on windows . if i go back on 1.8 it is good.

[emlowe]

Putting your logs into DEBUG mode and then providing some log output would be helpful here.
https://docs.chia.net/logging-reference/

Also, trying the CLI instead of the GUI might be helpful , running commands like chia start wallet

https://docs.chia.net/check-if-things-are-working

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[newland33]

Putting your logs into DEBUG mode and then providing some log output would be helpful here. https://docs.chia.net/logging-reference/

Also, trying the CLI instead of the GUI might be helpful , running commands like chia start wallet

https://docs.chia.net/check-if-things-are-working

if i do the update , there is no new log entry. if i set to old version log file works fine.

[wjblanke]

Can u try rebooting? Also, if logging is not set to DEBUG in config.yaml (it defaults to WARNING) it may take longer for a log file to appear.

[newland33]

Can u try rebooting? Also, if logging is not set to DEBUG in config.yaml (it defaults to WARNING) it may take longer for a log file to appear.

i set debug modus befor update, 3-4 times try do update an read log , but no new log still the old. today i have set up a new proxmox win11 with tzhe new chia 2.1 . now it looks good . thx@all

[ValeryLikavets]

1.log
2.log

Переустановка на Win11Pro не помогла.
System_Report.txt

[wjblanke]

Valery

2023-10-06T22:43:10.583 wallet chia.rpc.rpc_server : WARNING Cannot connect to daemon at ws://localhost:55400
2023-10-06T22:43:10.583 farmer chia.rpc.rpc_server : WARNING Cannot connect to daemon at ws://localhost:55400
2023-10-06T22:43:10.587 wallet chia.wallet.wallet_node : WARNING Can not connect to keychain at wss://localhost:55400.
2023-10-06T22:43:12.211 full_node chia.rpc.rpc_server : WARNING Cannot connect to daemon at ws://localhost:55400

It looks like daemon is not running. Have you tried rebooting? Any other information you can give us about your situation?

[ValeryLikavets]

Good day. Whatever I did: rebooted, deleted, installed - nothing helps. I reinstalled different versions of Windows (8,10,11) - only v1,8,2 works on this computer. I also have 7 more computers of different configurations - any version 2.x works on them

[emlowe]

This is almost certainly caused by Windows reserving the 55400 port the daemon uses by default.

You can either change the daemon port in config.yaml, or you can modify windows to not reserve this port:

dism.exe /Online /Disable-Feature:Microsoft-Hyper-V
reboot
netsh int ipv4 add excludedportrange protocol=tcp startport=55400 numberofports=1
reboot
dism.exe /Online /Disable-Feature:Microsoft-Hyper-V
reboot

[Ilushkin85]

I have the same problem. On the 1st PC out of 3 does not start. Only 1.8.2 works. Tried all versions of Windows 10.11. - does not start, port 50440- SYN status. What processor do you have installed?

[Ilushkin85]

[Ilushkin85]

[Ilushkin85]

Replacing the port with 55301 and so on. it doesn't do anything.

[Ilushkin85]

[ValeryLikavets]

то есть проблему решить никак? Похоже связано как-то с сокетом AM2, AM2+, AM3.

[ValeryLikavets]

HELP! Пулы требуют обновиться до версии 2.X

[ValeryLikavets]

[ValeryLikavets]

неужели все решили проблему? Help!

[ValeryLikavets]

dism.exe /Online /Disable-Feature:Microsoft-Hyper-V
reboot
netsh int ipv4 add excludedportrange protocol=tcp startport=55400 numberofports=1
reboot
dism.exe /Online /Disable-Feature:Microsoft-Hyper-V
reboot

It does not help.

[ValeryLikavets]

как побороть эту ХРЕНЬ?

[anonuser66]

Same thing! Nothing seems to help... PC AMD Phenom X4. Windows 10. Please develpers! Fix this problem ASAP!!!

[emlowe]

Everyone with issues in running the GUI - you should try going to the CLI as it makes finding issues easier

chia run_daemon - this runs the daemon in the foreground.

then in a second window run

chia start wallet

Then please include all logs and console output

[ValeryLikavets]

I did everything. But he writes the same things.

debug.log
debug__.log
debug__1.log

[Ssmith2003]

Not sure if translated right, but you update the motherboard and CPU. You talking software or the hardware.

[RutaHunter]

Not sure if translated right, but you update the motherboard and CPU. You talking software or the hardware.

In the chia client version from 2.0.0 there is some incompatibility with some AMD processors. But the developers don’t care, no one is in a hurry to fix it.

[ValeryLikavets]

Yes, I changed the hardware platform, and everything worked. And the developers are great ;) don't give a damn about their users.

[Ssmith2003]

If that is the answer. I'm likely done with this. I can't go out and get another motherboard.

[emlowe]

We continue to work on trying to reproduce this, but without any success so far.

We do see that some people on Windows see behaviour like this:

chia keys show -> will say there are no keys
chia keys generate -> will appear to create a key but then
chia keys show -> will still say there are no keys

This is what we are currently and actively working on as the primary root cause of this issue, but as yet we cannot reproduce and this problem seems limited to a very small subset of users.

[emlowe]

We managed to locate an older system and can confirm there is some problem with the BLS/BLST library on the AMD K10 architecture - this includes the AMD Phenom and Phenom II series of processors.

It is unknown if the problem is limited to Windows on those processors, but we anticipate it will happen on all OSs - testing continues.

Unclear if this also has impacted the FX-series (AM3+) - we don't have one to test with right now

[emlowe]

This issue is because the underlaying BLST library assembler requires SSSE3 (Supplemental SSE3) - this is present in any AMD processor after K10, including FX-series and bobcat series APUs

It is also in anything from Intel after Core 2 (2006).

[Ssmith2003]

Sorry does this mean I will not be able to ever use the computer in current use and only fixes is to get another computer

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[emlowe]

Options are being explored as to how to fix it for K10.

[emlowe]

We currently believe this is limited to Windows - you might try if WSL to see if it works there

[ValeryLikavets]

Well really :). 2 months have passed. At least that's it. I have 4 computers on Phenom x4 - it doesn’t work anywhere. By the way, Windows left the old one without reinstalling. Just a new motherboard and processor.

[RutaHunter]

Options are being explored as to how to fix it for K10.

We hope to resolve the issue as soon as possible. Moreover, everything was fine on older versions of the client.

[Ssmith2003]

Have you tried running Linux on a computer with AMD. If I use Linux will I have to learn all the commands?

[anonuser66]

Hello and thanks for all the updates!!
Can anyone confirm that using ubuntu server instead of windows 10 will work?
I have an AMD Phenom II X4 945

[emlowe]

Based on our discussion with the BLST team, we believe Ubuntu will work due to differences in the way the library is compiled. However, we haven't tested it ourselves.
A Ubuntu Live install would be useful here to test

[wjblanke]

If you have a K10 CPU and install the new Chia 2.1.2 release, you can copy this version of chia_rs.cp310-win_amd64.pyd over the existing one at c:\users\xxx\AppData\Local\Programs\Chia\resources\app.asar.unpacked\daemon\chia_rs\chia_rs.cp310-win_amd64.pyd. Reboot and restart. This is what I am running on my test AMD 905e machine and it should work fine until we get a fix in for a release (I understand any concerns folks have for running code attached from a github issue)

chia_rs.cp310-win_amd64.pyd.zip

[Ssmith2003]

Thank you very much. I'm back up and running now.

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[wjblanke]

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain/releases/tag/2.1.4-rc2

Please try this build if you are having issues

[alexhornet1981]

En amd phenom II x6 1035 y placa base am3 funciona.

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain/releases/tag/2.1.4-rc2

Pruebe esta compilación si tiene problemas

Gracias.

[Nuke79]

Hello and thanks for all the updates!! Can anyone confirm that using ubuntu server instead of windows 10 will work? I have an AMD Phenom II X4 945

Ubuntu server 22.04 + Phenom II 925 - working fine without 2.1.4 fix.

[alexhornet1981]

Sí. También funciona. El jue, 11 ene 2024 9:11, Nuke79 ***@***.***> escribió:

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[emlowe]

Fixed in 2.1.4