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Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment. #50

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HammerGS opened this issue Feb 12, 2017 · 9 comments
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Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment. #50

HammerGS opened this issue Feb 12, 2017 · 9 comments

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@HammerGS
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HammerGS commented Feb 12, 2017

From a Facebook Conversation on Super Heavy Construction. Currently MML allows Super Heavy mechs to be built with the following systems:

Updated list broken down by Tab:
[Structure/Armor Tab] Only IS allowed
Chassis Section
-Structure drop down-
Clan Standard
Clan Endo Steel
Clan Endo Composite
Clan Industrial

-Engine Type drop down- Following not allowed
Fission see comments
Fuel Cell see comments
Clan Fuel Cell see comments

-Enhancements drop down- Following not allowed
MASC
TSM

Movement Section Following not allowed
No Jump Jets or Jump Boosters of any type.
No Underwater Movement Units

[Equipment Tab] Following not allowed
Other Equipment
AES
Modular Armor
Partial Wing
Supercharger
Super-Cooled Myomer

[Assign Criticals Tab] Following not allowed
Armored Components

Per IO pg 162 these systems are not allowed.

@ravionhawk
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To clarify the Chassis.

Super Heavies can be made using Mixed Tech, but the Clans do not have Super Heavy structures of any sort.

Per IO pg 48 on the Universal Technology Advancement Table, there are only 5 Super Heavy Structure Types.
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@neoancient
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I took care of the invalid engines in the process of fixing #49 .

@ravionhawk
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I see.

I made the list for Hammer just before I grabbed the latest release. Thank you.

@pheonixstorm
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So under other equipment MASC is allowed?

@ravionhawk
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MASC and TSM are on the "Enhancements" drop down menu on the "Structure/Armor" tab.
They are prohibited on Super Heavies.

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#50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
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#50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
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#50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
neoancient added a commit that referenced this issue Feb 18, 2017
+Fix #50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
@neoancient
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I did not see any reference to super-cooled myomer in the superheavy rules or superheavies in the scm rules.

@ravionhawk
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Let me check on that.

I added it to the list based on the fact that TSM and MASC (both myomer enhancements) are prohibited.

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ravionhawk commented Feb 19, 2017

We may need a ruling from CGL. The way the rules for SH in IO on pg. 162 reads, you can not use ANY type of myomer except for SH Myomer. Doesn't mention SCM.

But the rules for RISC Super-Cooled Myomer (pg. 94) does say that SCM can only be used on Battlemechs and Omnimechs (non-pod) which is different from Superheavy Battlemechs and Superheavy Omnimechs.

There might be an errata coming down the pike to cover this.
But we definitely need a ruling from CGL.

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@ravionhawk
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Matter of fact, with the prohibitions with SCM and how it works, looks like it needs to be put in the same spot as TSM and MASC.

neoancient added a commit that referenced this issue Jul 17, 2019
#50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
neoancient added a commit that referenced this issue Jul 17, 2019
#50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
neoancient added a commit that referenced this issue Jul 17, 2019
+Fix #50: Super heavies shouldn't be allowed to use certain equipment.
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