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Remove atmospheric stun effect #8454

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@Allfd Allfd commented Dec 14, 2017

Removes the atmospheric stun effect as it is now unnecessary due to #8453

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granodd commented Dec 14, 2017

Does this mean no more "getting knocked over by space wind, but permanently stunned because I'm being sucked up against a wall girder that can't pull me through it, but there's a tile of space on the other side"?

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Allfd commented Dec 14, 2017

@granodd It does!

Although I had considered allowing you to be "pulled" through wall girders.

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Although I had considered allowing you to be "pulled" through wall girders.

Grim.

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I would think there is too much surface area to really do any damage. I mean maybe some brute, realistically some skin broken if clothing wasn't padded enough, but not enough that you turn into burger meat

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Allfd commented Dec 15, 2017

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When it's gotcha', it's gotcha'

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Anticept commented Dec 20, 2017

@Allfd the crab video was in super deep water, the pressure difference was several times that of atmospheric pressure. It takes ~407.2 inches of water to exert one atmosphere of force. This seems to have occurred at a depth of 6k feet; so if the pipe were a vacuum, it would be ~176 atmospheres of pressure.

Your second video is more accurate as to what would happen. You'll get sucked up and experience some very serious trama, but I doubt it would be enough to pull you through in pieces without a bit of momentum first.

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When I think of it in think of the movie face off where Castor Troy is slammed into the fencing by the jet turbine.

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Allfd commented Dec 20, 2017

@Anticept The pipe did not appear to be a vacuum and the first video is a clip from the second one.

You would want to equalize pressure between the pipe and the outside environment as much as would be feasible to prevent badness before cutting it apart.

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RatElemental commented Dec 20, 2017

Am I the only one who finds it weird that people keep calling for pressure differences to be ridiculously lethal for realism's sake when a ton of weapons do less damage than they would in real life? You can not only survive getting stabbed with a chef knife ten times, but it won't even keep you from walking to medbay unless it broke your leg or you lose too much blood on the way. Or your assailant is still trying to finish the job of course. A circular saw is only slightly more deadly.

Unless I have the wrong numbers anyway.

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Allfd commented Dec 22, 2017

I also find it odd. Toolbox to the face would suck

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KasparoVy commented Dec 22, 2017

We axed pain ages ago AFAIK. The only pain now is OOC.

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Anticept commented Dec 23, 2017

@Allfd correct, it wasn't a vacuum, but pointing out that using an example in deep water needs to account for the truly enormous weight of the water column, and the staggering potential difference that can occur. On the other hand, stuck against a grille or girders certainly would suck bad, but it would only peak out at around 1 atmosphere of force at standard pressure. Even people getting sucked up into water pipe drains under the enormous weight of water columns don't generally get strained through into hamburger unless they are really really deep. They still get their insides jellied quite a bit though!

The pressure increases about one atmosphere for every 10 meters of water depth. Most people can casually dive to about 40 meters. So our bodies can certainly take the pressure, though that gets a bit more foggy when considering pressure on only one side of the body.

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Allfd commented Mar 26, 2018

Combined with #8386

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