Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Slack Closure - Announcement #7307

Merged
merged 23 commits into from
Jan 11, 2024
Merged

Slack Closure - Announcement #7307

merged 23 commits into from
Jan 11, 2024

Conversation

joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor

@joethreepwood joethreepwood commented Dec 8, 2023

Changes

OK, so we’re going to close the Slack channel.

Practically the closure will go in stages.

  • Stage one: Announce the changes
  • Stage two: Archive the channel (after one week)
  • Stage three: Close the channel completely (after one week)

Archiving the channel as a first step will give users time to finish conversations and move to other channels, for the edge cases where chats are happening before we close it.

The announcement phase will involve...

Checklist

  • If I moved a page, I added a redirect in vercel.json
  • I've added (at least) 3 to 5 internal links to this new article
  • I've added keywords for this page to the rank tracker in Ahrefs
  • I've checked the preview build of the article
  • The date on the article is today's date
  • I've added this to the relevant "Tutorials and guides" docs page (if applicable)

Useful resources:

Copy link

vercel bot commented Dec 8, 2023

The latest updates on your projects. Learn more about Vercel for Git ↗︎

Name Status Preview Updated (UTC)
posthog 🛑 Canceled (Inspect) Jan 11, 2024 11:53am

@andyvan-ph
Copy link
Contributor

Was discussed on the RFC, but I felt there was agreement we'd do this once we'd merged the website and app auth?


## Why are we closing the PostHog Slack?

PostHog has grown incredibly fast over the past four years and while that has ensured the public Slack group has remained a busy place, we think it’s arguably become _too_ busy. We often find users asking questions that have already been answered in previous chats, or re-asking unanswered questions if they drift too far back in the chat history.
Copy link
Collaborator

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

You shared graphs showing that actually the opposite was happening though and messages are generally declining?

Copy link
Contributor Author

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive. The number of messages is declining, but the number of messages is still too much because we don't actively support these users (and the other points mentioned).

@charlescook-ph
Copy link
Collaborator

Was discussed on the RFC, but I felt there was agreement we'd do this once we'd merged the website and app auth?

Agreed - plan looks good, but we should wait til this has happened?

@joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor Author

joethreepwood commented Dec 11, 2023

Was discussed on the RFC, but I felt there was agreement we'd do this once we'd merged the website and app auth?

I wouldn't say there was agreement at all, actually. You mentioned it and Tiina and Marcus gave it a 👍, but there was no further discussion even on the thread where you mentioned it. Whereas the original plan which doesn't mention it got a review approval by most people before it was mentioned.

I agree it makes sense, but I don't think it should be a blocker since neither the website or app auths touch Slack and there's no visibility on when the merge will happen. The issue about it hasn't seen activity in a month. It definitely shouldn't be a blocker to drafting the announcement.

Currently, the number of active users in the Slack is declining at a regular rate. That should compel us to close the Slack and announce this as soon as possible in order to give us the best chance of migrating as many users as possible over to the Community. Every week we wait, there are fewer people to migrate and users in the Slack have a worse support experience.

@MarconLP maybe it would help if you could estimate a timeline for getting the website and app auths merged? If it's going to be by the first week or two of January, we should wait. If it's uncertain or likely to drift further, we should move ahead.

Copy link
Contributor

@andyvan-ph andyvan-ph left a comment

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

Right now, I think this reads a little too much like it's a "downgrade" of the community. We know that's not the case, but I think people will read this post that way. Suggestions:

  • Change the headline to something like "Important changes to our community" or something to that effect. The news isn't "we're closing Slack" it's "our plan to make community support better".

  • Less focus on why Slack is bad / doesn't work for us and more focus on the benefits of our website community + things we're planning to make it better.

@joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor Author

Right now, I think this reads a little too much like it's a "downgrade" of the community. We know that's not the case, but I think people will read this post that way. Suggestions:

  • Change the headline to something like "Important changes to our community" or something to that effect. The news isn't "we're closing Slack" it's "our plan to make community support better".

I'll tweak it, but I think it's important to get the Slack bit in there tbh. The headline should be specific.

  • Less focus on why Slack is bad / doesn't work for us and more focus on the benefits of our website community + things we're planning to make it better.

👍

@smallbrownbike
Copy link
Collaborator

I'd like to give users who have migrated from Slack a community achievement for making the switch. Something like "OG Slacker." Have we thought about how we'd be tracking the success of the migration? Assuming I could use that same dataset to determine if the user gets an achievement.

If not, I think the easiest thing to do is provide a tracking link in Slack and on this post before the closure: "Sign up for an account here." If they're coming from that link, we can shoot that off as an event for internal tracking and award the achievement from there.

If we want to be even more accurate, we can send each active Slack user an email or message with a unique tracking link to verify they've actually migrated. Not sure it's necessary, though.

@MarconLP
Copy link
Member

@joethreepwood I expect the auth merge to roll out before January

@joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor Author

@joethreepwood I expect the auth merge to roll out before January

Amazing! Is there a PR I can stay upto date with? We should def delay until thats done.

I'd like to give users who have migrated from Slack a community achievement for making the switch. Something like "OG Slacker." Have we thought about how we'd be tracking the success of the migration? Assuming I could use that same dataset to determine if the user gets an achievement.

If you have the capability to add achievements to a profile (?) then we can do this. The best way would be to separate it from this blog post and instead do it by email. That way we don't give an award to users who just read the blog post years later.

I can export a list of users from Slack, and create a segment in Customer.io. We can then hit all users in that segment with an announcement email and a direct CTA. We can track users who click the CTA and export that as a list for you to add the award to. All I need to know is what link you want me to send them to.

@MarconLP
Copy link
Member

Amazing! Is there a PR I can stay upto date with? We should def delay until thats done.

Yup, it has multiple PR's but this is the main issue: #5847

@joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor Author

Cool, we're just waiting for the Auth merge now. I'm going to be off from tomorrow, but I'll follow up on that when I return in 2024.

@joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor Author

Caught up with @MarconLP async. We're hoping to merge the auth stuff by end of this week, which will mean we can announce the closure on Monday.

If auth merge drifts further, recommend we announce the closure without it. Reason to move quickly here is that the user Slack is shrinking and giving users a poor experience. The sooner we move, the more users we can bring over to Community and the fewer will have a bad experience.

@joethreepwood
Copy link
Contributor Author

I've added proposed timelines and achievement details. I'd like to get this published and done tomorrow.

We'll announce on the 11th, archive on the 12th, close completely on the 22nd, and party on the 23rd.

I'd like W&D to take a quick look to make sure the details about the achievements are correct? That's the only real other addition over previous versions.

Copy link
Contributor

@andyvan-ph andyvan-ph left a comment

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

A few bits and bobs.

contents/blog/slack-closure.md Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
contents/blog/slack-closure.md Outdated Show resolved Hide resolved
joethreepwood and others added 7 commits January 11, 2024 11:13
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Andy Vandervell <92976667+andyvan-ph@users.noreply.github.com>
Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Projects
None yet
Development

Successfully merging this pull request may close these issues.

None yet

9 participants