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Remove Other Glycine Cleavage System Enzymes From GPR of MAR06409 #529
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yes, maybe dig a little bit up in human-related papers |
From the middle of the abstract of this paper:
(LADH = (dihydro)LipoAmide DeHydrogenase = another name for DLD = DihydroLipoamide Dehydrogenase) |
the provided evidence pieces collectively do not appear to confirm that "DLD" should be the only gene catalyse MAR06409. for example, |
From the first paper's section on GCS: "Unlike the PDC and KDC, the GCS is not a tightly bound multienzyme This is maybe veering into the concerns I raised in #524, but consider the following reactions: The "low-resolution" version of the GCS reaction: One of the two "high-resolution" versions of the GCS reaction: The "low-resolution" version of the PDH reaction: The "high-resolution" version of the PDH reaction: Notice how in both cases, the "high-resolution" reactions produce dihydrolipoamide, which must be oxidized back to lipoamide while reducing NAD+ to NADH in order for the "high-resolution" series to achieve the same overall reaction as the "low-resolution" reaction, and, as you just said, DLD is the enzyme responsible for this step in both cases. So if Human1 is going to have a separate reaction for the oxidation/reduction of (dihydro)lipoamide by NAD(H), the GPR for that reaction should only include DLD and not any of the other genes that DLD can complex with while catalyzing this reaction. Alternatively, the GPR should look something like "(DLD and GCSH and AMT and GLDC) or (DLD and DLAT and PDHB) or (genes involved in KGDHc))." Either way, I think that the fact that DLD catalyzes the reaction portrayed in MAR06409 as a member of multiple distinct complexes means that the GPR for that reaction should not "and" DLD together with the other components of only one of those complexes. Also, I don't think this is a particularly strong argument, but I noticed that MAR06409 is one number away from MAR06410, the first step of the "high-resolution" PDH reaction series that explicitly invovles lipoamide, which makes me think that MAR06409 was originally added as a step in this PDH reaction series, and it wasn't until later that he GPR was changed to include the other members of the GCS, since the IDs for the "high-resolution" GCS reactions (MAR08433 and MAR08434) are nowhere near the same value. |
very good discussion - will sleep on it |
So if I understand correctly, you are saying that if Human1 use two continuous reactions to describe the "low resolution" process, we need also separate the GPRs, right? Actually, the "high-resolution" process can be devided into three rxns (two low resolution rxns and the |
this paper measured catalytically-active DLD in human serum and specifically confirmed that the other members of the enzyme complexes DLD is known to participate in were not there |
If so, I am ok with having DLD alone as grRule for this rxn MAR06409. How about your opininon @haowang-bioinfo |
agree, please go ahead |
@Devlin-Moyer very good paper - can you please explain, or speculate, why serum DLD is lack of diaphorase activity, and fail to be recognized by antibodies that recognize mitochondrial DLD? |
I haven't come across any papers that specifically say this yet, but a possible explanation is that DLD has a slightly different overall shape when free vs in an enzyme complex, and it seems plausible that most mitochondrial DLD is complexed with the other PDH or OGDH complex subunits. Since antibodies generally recognize shapes of things, an antibody that binds to bound-to-a-complex DLD might not bind to free DLD. And similarly, DLD might only have diaphorase activity in the bound-to-other-complex-subunits conformation and not its free-floating conformation |
This paper describes that DLD, as a shared component of pyruvate dehydrogenase, glycine cleavage system, alpha-ketoglutarate dehydrogenase complexes, specifically transfer electrons from dihydrolipoamide to NAD+ in human and other organisms. |
fixed in #537 |
MAR06409 (lipoamide + NADH + H+ <-> dihydrolipoamide + NAD+) should have its GPR changed to just "DLD" (ENSG00000091140)
At the moment, it is "DLD and GCSH and AMT and GLDC", i.e. the other components of the glycine cleavage system (GCS), but DLD also catalyzes exactly the same reaction as a subunit of the pyruvate dehydrogenase (PDH) and 2-oxoglutarate dehydrogenase (OGDH) complexes
See figures 2 and 5 of this paper; I know that paper never specifically states that DLD is a member of both the GCS and the PDH complex, but I think it makes it clear that this is generally true in a variety of organisms across all domains of life -- let me know if you want me to dig up a paper that specifically mentions DLD in humans
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