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[RA2 Ch04]: Networking part of Ch4 in RA2 #821
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I agree we should not impose it. For instance, I would opt for Calico+Maltus for my implementation. But this should not be mandated but the use of CNI plugins should be.
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In doc/ref_arch/kubernetes/chapters/chapter04.md<#821 (comment)>:
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## 4.5 CNI plugins
-> This chapter should describe which CNI plugins are part of the Rerefence Architecture.
+The used CNI multiplexer/metapulgin must be [DANM](https://github.com/nokia/danm) with [Calico](https://github.com/projectcalico/cni-plugin) as the CNI what complies with the basic networking assumptions of Kubernetes.
Question: Do we need to impose the use of Calico and DANM via this MUST clause ?
There are other options as well like Multus+Calico, Cilium, CNI-Genie etc.
Any criteria for shortlisting of DANM and calico specifically ?
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I'll mark as approved as once @msidana's comments are resolved I'm happy.
This change adds references to the different requirements from Ch01.
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My comments have not been addressed either. I do not understand why Nokia's DAMN solution is mandated here, versus for example Maltus. We have to discuss and decide if we either mandate one set of CNI plug-ins (in that case Maltus is a much more common and implemented in many reference architectures), or we leave few options for implementation. I would opt to start with the most common, and simplest, which in my view would be Maltus with Flannel, and then start adding others. In any case, this is where perhaps we should have a discussion internally but also with the Kubernetes group?
I agree with @walterkozlowski . I have nothing against DAMN or a particular solution but there should be a reasoning in the document on how and why we selected DANM/MULTUS. Once that is answered, we should also have a description of the REASON for selecting CALICO. |
The used CNI multiplexer/metapulgin must be [DANM](https://github.com/nokia/danm) | ||
as it provides the possibility to use several other CNI plugins (`req.inf.ntw.16`) and provides an API based solution to administer the networks (`req.inf.ntw.10`) from a central point (`req.inf.ntw.11`). | ||
[Calico](https://github.com/projectcalico/cni-plugin) must be used as the CNI what complies with the basic networking assumptions of Kubernetes based on the requirement `req.inf.ntw.02`. | ||
For the network of signalling connections the built in IPVLAN CNI of DANM must be used as it provides NAT-less connectivity (`req.inf.ntw.03`). For the user plane network(s) fullfilling requirement `req.inf.ntw.04` the [User Space CNI](https://github.com/intel/userspace-cni-network-plugin) must be used. |
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@CsatariGergely thanks for this - it's helpful. What would make this complete, for me, is for the reasons that the alternatives (i.e. Multus, Flannel, etc.) are able to meet the requirements, as that is the unanswered question left open here.
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@tomkivlin is there anything still open here?
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For Multus v DANM, yes. For the Calico part, I don't think it's as simple-a-comparison. For example, Flannel and Calico together (/canal) could deliver the requirements, yes? And there are other CNI plugins that also support NetworkPolicy such as Cilium and Weave Net.
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TBH I don't think Canal is actively maintained by anyone, or is widely used
Agree Cilium could be an interesting alternative, however does its NP implementation work if your traffic is not in L7?
I hoped, that my references to the requirements satisfied your comments. Would it be okay if I add a comparision table of DANM and Multus features in reference to the requirements? Can you please refer to the many reference architectures where Multus is implemented? I'm only aware of the KNI Blueprint family in Akraino what is similar to DANM's presence in the Akraino REC blueprint. |
Due to requests in comments this change adds a comparision table of the relevant requirements and additional features of DANM and Multus.
In products from Red Hat, Ericsson and several other vendors. |
I would rather call these vendor specific implementations and not reference architectures. |
| Service based dicovery of all provisioned interfaces | Not supported | Supported | | ||
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[Calico](https://github.com/projectcalico/cni-plugin) must be used as the CNI what complies with the basic networking assumptions of Kubernetes based on the requirement `req.inf.ntw.02` due to it's capability to handle `NetworkPolicies`, what is missing from [Flannel](https://github.com/coreos/flannel-cni). | ||
For the network of signalling connections the built in IPVLAN CNI of DANM must be used as it provides NAT-less connectivity (`req.inf.ntw.03`). For the user plane network(s) fullfilling requirement `req.inf.ntw.04` the [User Space CNI](https://github.com/intel/userspace-cni-network-plugin) must be used. |
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IMO MACVLAN is as valid as IPVLAN, depends on whether CNF requires L2, or L3 unique addresses
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[Calico](https://github.com/projectcalico/cni-plugin) must be used as the CNI what complies with the basic networking assumptions of Kubernetes based on the requirement `req.inf.ntw.02` due to it's capability to handle `NetworkPolicies`, what is missing from [Flannel](https://github.com/coreos/flannel-cni). | ||
For the network of signalling connections the built in IPVLAN CNI of DANM must be used as it provides NAT-less connectivity (`req.inf.ntw.03`). For the user plane network(s) fullfilling requirement `req.inf.ntw.04` the [User Space CNI](https://github.com/intel/userspace-cni-network-plugin) must be used. | ||
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and I maintain that SR-IOV Device Plugin managed VFs are must haves :)
in anycase, userspace CNI in itself is nothing. we might need to elaborate which backend we want to use behind it: OVS-DPDK, or VPP
Even me as DANM author am not a fan of hardcoding implementation choices into an arch spec :) Food for thought for Multus operators tho: how do you make sure in a K8s environment equipped with Multus that no CNFs can overstep their boundaries? BTW do we have a requirement for these security issues? Something like "CNI shall be able to reject CNF requests related to protected network resources" |
Addressing incoming comments this change adds the option to use MACVLAN CNI, lists the backend options for the User Space CNi and adds the SR-IOV Device Plugin to the SR-IOV related note.
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Still requires discussion and changes in my view. We cannot mandate "must" one vendor proprietary CNI plug-in.
My proposal is this: rather than avoiding a merge until all potential options are listed, @CsatariGergely could you modify the wording to suggest future additions can be made, e.g. "Here are the CNI plugins that conform:" and list what you have now. We can then raise subsequent PRs to add to the list, rather than waiting until all the options are ready to list before merging. @walterkozlowski would that be ok with you? |
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As suggested in previous comment, modify wording to imply future additions to a list can be made.
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Yes, this is a good way out of this a bit stalemate situation, I agree.
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Still requires discussion and changes in my view. We cannot mandate "must" one vendor proprietary CNI plug-in.
My proposal is this: rather than avoiding a merge until all potential options are listed, @CsatariGergely<https://github.com/CsatariGergely> could you modify the wording to suggest future additions can be made, e.g. "Here are the CNI plugins that conform:" and list what you have now. We can then raise subsequent PRs to add to the list, rather than waiting until all the options are ready to list before merging. @walterkozlowski<https://github.com/walterkozlowski> would that be ok with you?
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@walterkozlowski great. @CsatariGergely would you be ok to make the suggested change, or shall I? |
@walterkozlowski is it okay if I add an editors note saying: |
As we were not able to agree on the set of CNI plugins this change adds a note that the list can be changed in the future.
@walterkozlowski if you're able to approve this in your morning, we can look to merge, thanks. |
Can we also remove the MUST here and change it to MAY, rephrasing |
I agree with @msidana and I asked before for changing MUST to MAY in relation to use DAMN. @CsatariGergely can you please change it so we can approve it. |
I have not approved as I have not seen any changes. Looks to me like still DAMN is mandated as MUST. AM I looking at the wrong spot?
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@walterkozlowski<https://github.com/walterkozlowski> if you're able to approve this in your morning, we can look to merge, thanks.
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This change switches the "must" statements regarding to CNI-s to "may" statements and adds a cladification text to the related editors note how this will be fixed in the next releases.
I've added the editors note what we agreed on the meeting... |
As we already discussed it is the target of the RA to enforce a particular choice. For the current release I've softened the musts to mays for the CNI plugins, but in a later release we shall be able to agree on a set. |
I agree with this. |
Given the changes @CsatariGergely has made in line with requests from @walterkozlowski, myself and others, I will mark this as ready to be merged for the Snezka release. Of course subsequent Issues can be created and added to the RA2 Core Backlog (just use the Backlog label and the RA2 Core project when creating the issue, the rest is automated). |
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