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Make channels field optional within an AsyncAPI file. #661

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smoya opened this issue Nov 30, 2021 · 12 comments
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Make channels field optional within an AsyncAPI file. #661

smoya opened this issue Nov 30, 2021 · 12 comments
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smoya commented Nov 30, 2021

Context

This is part of the RFC #618 (comment).
In an effort around reducing the scope of such RFC, it has been split into several proposals so they can move forward independently.

The problem

From #628 (comment):

One way we have seen the specification being used is in a Dictionary type of AsyncAPI document, which is a type of pattern for defining definitions for the common information, shared by each separate application.

However, users have been forced to declare an empty object as a value for the channels field since this is not optional.

Suggestion

To make channels field optional.
It depends on #660, because without it perhaps it won't make a lot of sense.

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derberg commented Dec 22, 2021

I think this one is pretty easy to push for January 2022 release. Change is small, and I know people use AsyncAPI just to list messages in components, and they do not need channels object and just leave it empty.

@Fannon not sure if you are the one that uses AsyncAPI this way or someone else from SAP? don't remember 😅

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Fannon commented Dec 22, 2021

@derberg : What do you mean with "this way" excactly?
In the case of using CloudEvents, having channels with topic names may not bean ideal fit because with CloudEvents you would subscribe via "type" or "source" properties. A topic / channel then becomes an implementation detail or may not fit very well.

However, channels still make sense to indicate which events from messages are actually subscribable / actively sent (as opposed to events which are technically supported, but not "active").

If you need any more background, I can get in contact with my colleagues. I'm not working on this directory, but I'm in contact with the colleagues who do.

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derberg commented Dec 22, 2021

oh sorry, so I meant that someone from SAP uses AsyncAPI in a way that channels are just channels: {} and then just messages are listed in components. But yeah, I forgot how big SAP is and that probably it was someone not related to the work that you are doing 😆

this is the case I was talking about asyncapi/parser-js#210

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smoya commented Jan 4, 2022

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smoya commented Jan 19, 2022

As per asyncapi/spec-json-schemas#146 (comment), we won't include this change in 2.3.0 but rather in 3.0.0.

dalelane added a commit to dalelane/website that referenced this issue Jan 23, 2022
This change (from asyncapi/spec#661) is now being held back to
version 3.0 so I've removed the reference to it from the
release notes for 2.3

Signed-off-by: Dale Lane <dale.lane@uk.ibm.com>
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jonaslagoni commented Sep 28, 2022

I think we can close this one as it was introduced in #827, or do we wait for implementation as well?

cc @derberg @fmvilas @dalelane

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fmvilas commented Sep 28, 2022

Moving to RFC 1. It's still missing JSON Schema and Parser implementations. I'll update the label once it's ready.

I know an RFC 1 should be a pull request but I think we can just make an exception here for now.

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smoya commented Apr 15, 2023

This issue is still relevant. Should be marked as completed once AsyncAPI v3 gets released.

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smoya commented Aug 18, 2023

#661 (comment)

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