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@MalikRumi Updates to bokeh yesterday are unreleased changes, so they are irrelevant for tuturial notebooks, which will only over cover released versions. The tutorial notebooks are up to date with the latest release (2.4.2) and we generally work to make sure that is the case. I am not sure what you else you would like to have happen? cc @tcmetzger |
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I absolutely agree with what @bryevdv said - the notebooks are supposed to provide basic information that works with the current release of Bokeh (2.4.2). I.e. they should be sufficiently up to date! @MalikRumi Please let us know if you have found anything in the notebooks that is outdated or doesn't work anymore - or if there are Bokeh features that you would like to see covered in a future version of the notebooks. As Bryan mentioned, we are working on updating those notebooks, and always appreciate ideas and pointers (and PRs to improve them, of course)! 😀 |
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No no, this is fine. I wanted to make sure because I just took a different
tutorial written before the change to parse_dates - which meant that from
that very early point in the tutorial forward, almost nothing related to
dates and indexes worked as expected.
In the interim, I stumbled across chartify. I cloned it and started the
notebook based tutorial, and on *the third input line* of the tutorial:
ch.show()
No chart shows! As I understand it, this tutorial is designed so that each
lesson is based on the user's interaction with the chart in the notebook.
So ... two tutorials, two immediate failures. You can understand, then, why
I ask my skittish sounding questions about yours....
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…On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:24 PM Timo Cornelius Metzger < ***@***.***> wrote:
I absolutely agree with what @bryevdv <https://github.com/bryevdv> said -
the notebooks are supposed to provide basic information that works with the
current release of Bokeh (2.4.2). I.e. they should be sufficiently up to
date!
@MalikRumi <https://github.com/MalikRumi> Please let us know if you have
found anything in the notebooks that is outdated or doesn't work anymore -
or if there are Bokeh features that you would like to see covered in a
future version of the notebooks. As Bryan mentioned, we are working on
updating those notebooks, and always appreciate ideas and pointers (and PRs
to improve them, of course)! 😀
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>>are you saying you had problems with a sample data set?
No no! Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you. I was referencing a **different,
3rd party** bokeh tutorial which was put out in 2018, two months before
pandas rewrote parse_dates, and *that, 3rd party tutorial* has not been
updated to reflect that change. I figured all this out by chasing down the
errors and the pandas change log. That really does not have anything to do
with you directly, it was just a reference to difficulties I have had
learning bokeh up to now.
>>To the extent (Chartify) still works, it probably would required using
an old 0.x version of Bokeh.
Well, *that's* good to know,* and it fits my experience:* They promote a
slack channel for questions, but until I showed up it hadn't been used in
over a month. Again, more evidence of the roadblocks I've been running into
just trying to learn. So now I will go and start *your* notebook tutorial.
If I have issues, at least now I know how to find you.Thanks!
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I am not sure what issue you are running into with parse_dates. That is a
Pandas option is not part of Bokeh, so I am not sure about the relevance.
The only place Bokeh uses it AFAIK is in some of the sampledata loaders,
are you saying you had problems with a sample data set?
In the interim, I stumbled across chartify. I cloned it and started the
notebook based tutorial, and on *the third input line* of the tutorial:
ch.show()
Chartify is not developed or maintained by the Bokeh team. It was created
by Spotify many years ago, but AFAIK they don't really put any corporate
resources or effort into maintaining, and so it is very out of date. To the
extent it still works, it probably would required using an old 0.x version
of Bokeh.
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Oh, are you the same "Bryan, Core Team Member" on the Discourse site?
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usage questions the best place to turn to for support is out community Discourse
site <https://discourse.bokeh.org>
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Is this
https://notebooks.gesis.org/binder/jupyter/user/bokeh-bokeh-notebooks-65aw2ty0/notebooks/tutorial/00%20-%20Introduction%20and%20Setup.ipynb
The same as
https://github.com/bokeh/bokeh-notebooks/blob/main/tutorial/00%20-%20Introduction%20and%20Setup.ipynb
It sure looks like it. The problem is the binder version has no date on it that I can see, while the github version hasn’t been updated since the latest commit 7f96c7d on Jul 10, 2020. But bokeh itself was updated yesterday f7989e1 18 hours ago. So are these tutorials still sufficiently up to date so as to not be misleading, if not useless?
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