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https://www.bosch-mobility-solutions.com/en/products-and-services/passenger-cars-and-light-commercial-vehicles/connectivity-solutions/central-gateway/ |
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Same here. I hope someone do something about this security(?) system. |
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According to a Renault employee, the recently released cars have the gateway locked. I tried coding through ddt4all but stopped writing step. Has anyone solved it? |
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You need to connect can lines directly from BCM, not OBD to avoid CGW. |
Any walkthrough about it? |
Was wondering if it was possible, is it working ? If so, you just have to connect CANH/CANL lines from OBD adapter directly to CANH/CANL from ECU, that will bypass the gateway. You may need ECU pinouts, though |
When you try to WRITE data to ECU, CGW makes an echo with a part of DDT4ALL write command. So the real command newer arrives to ECU correctly. If you connect CAN Lines directly to BCM then CGW will not work - because you are at internal network. and YES, I TRIED- WORKED. I tried because I sniffed the traffic and saw what CGW do and found this solution. BCM is located under left - down of steering wheel. I dont rebember the pin out but its easy to locate. |
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@pilotkalem So, If we connect to BCM; we can send write command to other ECU's on same the network too? |
Yes, with that connection you will join internal can network so you can communicate with all other ecu's as well. I said BCM can because it the easiest location to join internal can network. |
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Does it mean that ddt4all will have write option Clio V someday? |
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Friends Clio V is there any new development regarding the problem of connecting to the vehicle? |
There are no problems with the connection, you just have to connect the Elm directly to the body control module. |
That's true however it's not possible to save changes. Is this still true? Or maybe I have old informations and writing is already implemented? |
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Guys, as I said before, you can WRITE parameters to Clio 5 with proper
connection - directly to bcm can lines. I tested many times.
2 Oca 2021 Cmt 04:05 tarihinde passyk <notifications@github.com> şunu yazdı:
… Friends Clio V is there any new development regarding the problem of
connecting to the vehicle?
There are no problems with the connection, you just have to connect the
Elm directly to the body control module.
That's true however it's not possible to save changes. Is this still true?
Or maybe I have old informations and writing is already implemented?
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Is there any manual how to do it? |
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Actually we only need BCM pinout for this. Could anyone reach this information? |
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Elm327. Just separate can lines from İnternete abd connect direcrly to bcm
thats all.
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Give a mail address. |
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karadas87@gmail.com Thanks. |
Can you show me the picture of connecting BCM and ELM327? I am a Korean who is riding the xm3 called Arkana in a foreign country. Arkana can be coded using elm327, but xm3 cannot be stored as modified values. I ask for your help me. Thank you. |
first, thx for give me this topic. Is it possible to have this information please? thx |
Can you send me that information ? Thank you very much in advance! |
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hi all, |
Have you only observed the free exchange of data between the control units? |
Covid you kindly send it to me too? Probably are the white/green wire but any help will be needed. |
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Can you send me that information ? |
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Sorry, I don't have any wiring diagram or pinout to share.
Anyway if you want I can send you my progress.
I want to cut the Can L and Can H pin on my OBD interface and put it
directly in other can network point, when I will found the correct point
maybr i can write because sgw is bypassed...
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I noticed another problem: I did the edits with DDT4ALL for AA wireless and tested with a few ECU's to see if it was working...but nothing. Now I saw that I cannot search for updates, I can only see my firmware version and there is no more "Check updates". I did something wrong? I only edited the lines I said before |
en el mio, tambien pasa de echo tengo la acabada en 773R, y me pone que esta actualizdo y es una de las antiguas, y no me deja
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Thank you for this, I see that I have to use the version 2.9 (firmware 9788R) and of course my ECU has the 2.8 as max version so I cannot editing anything regarding the Navigation section...no one has the 2.9 or later version?
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you need an update |
Do you think that if in Renault I request an update because I don't receive it since 1 year and a half, will they update it without questions? |
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entra en A-IVI V1.11.. |
Yep, here I am
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yo tengo todo en... on, present ,enabled luego le das a la cabeza del einstein, y cambiara de color mas oscuro y como lo tienes... |
Which section you turn everything on? I don't know...is it safe? |
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1 como lo tienes activado al coche? si lo tienes directo al coche por obd, el coche te lo bloquea y no te deja hacer nada porque tiene el sistema swg de renault y no te deja hacer nada, |
I have already bypassed the gateway and it works, because I also enabled the wifi function but android auto wireless doesn't work for the firmware I think...I cannot upgrade it also because I don't have anymore the "search update" function since my edits with ddt4all |
de que año es tu coche? |
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Clio V - end 2020 |
can you get the 'search update' back by enabling something in AIVi ECU - like FOTA (over the air updates) ? |
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Is That also posible for megane mk5 plugin hybrid? And were can i find the canbus?Verzonden vanaf Outlook voor Android
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This is the exact problem i had. |
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Hm, I get the feeling that the OBD cable I bought (that should have the correct PIC18F25K80 chip) is still a clone. Before visiting the garage and asking them to unlock my Clio V, I just wanted to get a quick feel for ddt4all and where I could find the settings related to Wireless Carplay. So connecting the OBD dongle to my laptop and running ddt4all I see some things happening in the python console, but basically ddt4all gives me no read values for anything -- the right column lists everything as red / read error (I selected the Clio V from the list, then Navigation, then A-IVI v1.10, then System Information $DAB1). From information in this thread I assume I should still be able to read info (just not write any info back to the ECU), correct? Is there anyone from the Netherlands in this thread that's willing to either help me out with a working OBD cable (just need to borrow it once) or even better, who has a modified cable setup so I don't even need to go to a garage and beg them to unlock the ECU? |
Where did you buy the cable? I have one that works fine. Im from NL as well. |
Amazon.nl, but I think it's an AliExpress seller. However, they claimed it was a 100% original PIC12F25K80 cable: Is there a good way to trouble-shoot and figure out if it's the cable or if I'm doing something stupid? :) |
Look for a Konnwei ELM327. I also have that one you posted, make sure to switch the switch to test if it needs the other connection. You can open it up to check the internals. Usually if it has LEDs lighting up, its original. |
I'll give it another try tonight and document the output from the python window. Are you in the Noord-Holland area, by any chance? :) |
No, ZH. |
I'm in Den Haag & Rotterdam fairly often, so if I'm getting stuck with my cable, would you care to help me out? Fingers crossed it's not necessary, but it'd be amazing to have a back-up solution instead of just ordering more cables 🤣 (ah-- ik zie het al, Spijkenisse... je bent een mede-Tweaker, maar dat verbaast me eigenlijk niet zo veel ;p) |
Yeah i moved though. But i work in Rijswijk, so that would be close for you. |
hola... |
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Show what you're doing with screenshots or screen videos. |
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I can connect, read all the values but I cannot change any of them, i've heard it is also the case for Captur 2, both using Easy link systems. Is there a work in progress? Anything I can try? Thanks!
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