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Check continuity on O2 cryogenic tanks before allowing stir #3

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LeoTindall opened this Issue Jul 7, 2016 · 211 comments

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LeoTindall commented Jul 7, 2016

A customer has had a fairly serious problem with stirring the cryogenic tanks with a circuit fault present. To reproduce:

  1. Build CSM
  2. Perform mission up to translunar coast
  3. During translunar coast, attempt to stir cryo tanks

If a wiring fault exists, the issue may be replicated. Be aware that this may be hazardous to the tester attempting it.

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electron0zero Jul 7, 2016

i think this issue should be closed because we can't reproduce it

electron0zero commented Jul 7, 2016

i think this issue should be closed because we can't reproduce it

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lbotinelly Jul 7, 2016

Does it happens only with translunar coast (sol-3-a), or any moon coasting? It may be a problem with the moon. Just trying to narrow down the issue.

lbotinelly commented Jul 7, 2016

Does it happens only with translunar coast (sol-3-a), or any moon coasting? It may be a problem with the moon. Just trying to narrow down the issue.

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Have you tried turning it off and on again?

pjanaya commented Jul 7, 2016

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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This is fixed in Apollo 14.

atpage commented Jul 7, 2016

This is fixed in Apollo 14.

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This is a hardware problem. I suggest a wontfix and close.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13a_Summary.htm

In other words: "What was that gauge reading before you hit the switch?"

adampats commented Jul 7, 2016

This is a hardware problem. I suggest a wontfix and close.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13a_Summary.htm

In other words: "What was that gauge reading before you hit the switch?"

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@adampats Hey, don't tell me how to fly the CM, all right? They brought me in here to do a job, they asked me to stir the tanks, and I stirred the tanks!

LeoTindall commented Jul 7, 2016

@adampats Hey, don't tell me how to fly the CM, all right? They brought me in here to do a job, they asked me to stir the tanks, and I stirred the tanks!

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leommoore Jul 7, 2016

As a temporary solution, you could try gently rolling the CM/LAM to agitate the O2. You may need to do it on the X and Y axis to get optimal agitation.

leommoore commented Jul 7, 2016

As a temporary solution, you could try gently rolling the CM/LAM to agitate the O2. You may need to do it on the X and Y axis to get optimal agitation.

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chrislgarry commented Jul 7, 2016

@SilverWingedSeraph could you provide a screen shot of the error I should expect to see during repro?

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Let's work the problem people.

AdamFreemer commented Jul 7, 2016

Let's work the problem people.

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@chrislgarry It looks a little something like this:

screenshot_20160707_104443

screenshot_20160707_104357

LeoTindall commented Jul 7, 2016

@chrislgarry It looks a little something like this:

screenshot_20160707_104443

screenshot_20160707_104357

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khash Jul 7, 2016

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading to Apollo 12

khash commented Jul 7, 2016

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading to Apollo 12

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lbotinelly Jul 7, 2016

Not specifically for this issue, but maybe we should consider trimming down. I'm pretty sure we can automate this, eliminating both meatbags and O2 tanks from the final implementation.

lbotinelly commented Jul 7, 2016

Not specifically for this issue, but maybe we should consider trimming down. I'm pretty sure we can automate this, eliminating both meatbags and O2 tanks from the final implementation.

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Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

Wazzaps commented Jul 7, 2016

Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

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Many bug fixes were addressed in Apollo 18 mission software, until the bugs infected the astronauts.

AdamFreemer commented Jul 7, 2016

Many bug fixes were addressed in Apollo 18 mission software, until the bugs infected the astronauts.

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It works for me

predicat commented Jul 7, 2016

It works for me

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So, I think it might be a hardware issue. Have you tried taking the tanks out and putting them back in again? Maybe that will fix it.

lparkermg commented Jul 7, 2016

So, I think it might be a hardware issue. Have you tried taking the tanks out and putting them back in again? Maybe that will fix it.

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@atpage Savage

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We're going to need a label for good first bug, agreed?

stkrzysiak commented Jul 7, 2016

We're going to need a label for good first bug, agreed?

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@stkrzysiak It's got to be a hardware tag if what @atpage said is true.

lparkermg commented Jul 7, 2016

@stkrzysiak It's got to be a hardware tag if what @atpage said is true.

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Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

we have tried converting to node. heres a mockup.

http://svtsim.com/moonjs/agc.html

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@Wazzaps
Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

we have tried converting to node. heres a mockup.

http://svtsim.com/moonjs/agc.html

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AstraSerg Jul 7, 2016

Which exactly Universe do you use when face this bug?

AstraSerg commented Jul 7, 2016

Which exactly Universe do you use when face this bug?

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Xenopoloza Jul 7, 2016

Just had this issue happen to me, I took a screenshot.

apollo-13

Xenopoloza commented Jul 7, 2016

Just had this issue happen to me, I took a screenshot.

apollo-13

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Did you try uninstalling the drivers then reinstalling them?

JohnTendik commented Jul 7, 2016

Did you try uninstalling the drivers then reinstalling them?

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Looks like there could be an ID10T error, along with some memory leaks.

bstiller1 commented Jul 7, 2016

Looks like there could be an ID10T error, along with some memory leaks.

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Well, can I just update the firmware to fix this issue? Or do I have to take my Apollo to local NASA-spacecraft dealer?

Really frustrating!

ireun commented Jul 7, 2016

Well, can I just update the firmware to fix this issue? Or do I have to take my Apollo to local NASA-spacecraft dealer?

Really frustrating!

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This software has reached end of life and is no longer receiving security updates. NASA strongly recommends that you migrate to a supported version. Unfortunately no such version exists at this time.

WebSpanner commented Jul 7, 2016

This software has reached end of life and is no longer receiving security updates. NASA strongly recommends that you migrate to a supported version. Unfortunately no such version exists at this time.

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Xenopoloza Jul 7, 2016

Ok I'm in a real pickle here, after you experience this issue apparently you can't simply reboot to fix it. Does anyone have a good workaround? Also my CO2 is getting pretty high, please answer quickly this is a production issue for me.

Xenopoloza commented Jul 7, 2016

Ok I'm in a real pickle here, after you experience this issue apparently you can't simply reboot to fix it. Does anyone have a good workaround? Also my CO2 is getting pretty high, please answer quickly this is a production issue for me.

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It's not a bug, it's a feature.

kiweb commented Jul 7, 2016

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

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Well, I run the unit tests and it says 0 errors...

luislobo commented Jul 7, 2016

Well, I run the unit tests and it says 0 errors...

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Did you try SCE to AUX?

AnthonyRinaldi commented Jul 7, 2016

Did you try SCE to AUX?

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yeukhon Jul 7, 2016

Who is the project manager? This change request is getting out of hand. I request a formal review. Let's bring back Waterfall. This is nonsensical that we have to argue whether this is a feature or a bug.

yeukhon commented Jul 7, 2016

Who is the project manager? This change request is getting out of hand. I request a formal review. Let's bring back Waterfall. This is nonsensical that we have to argue whether this is a feature or a bug.

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This repo really adds to the legitimacy of Stanley Kubrick's short fictional film "Lunar Landing", starring Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

Nice work guys.

acicali commented Jul 7, 2016

This repo really adds to the legitimacy of Stanley Kubrick's short fictional film "Lunar Landing", starring Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

Nice work guys.

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aoozdemir Jul 7, 2016

This issue made my day. 😃 You guys are amazing.

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aoozdemir commented Jul 7, 2016

This issue made my day. 😃 You guys are amazing.

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wanted0 Jul 7, 2016

Yeah, if we can't solve it, let's think abouta workaround. I believe we should start by collecting all the tools we have.

The Tape with Duct software, Socks proxy and some in-hose tools could help.

wanted0 commented Jul 7, 2016

Yeah, if we can't solve it, let's think abouta workaround. I believe we should start by collecting all the tools we have.

The Tape with Duct software, Socks proxy and some in-hose tools could help.

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nabijaczleweli Jul 7, 2016

Have you tried not breathing? Then having no O2 would make no difference!

nabijaczleweli commented Jul 7, 2016

Have you tried not breathing? Then having no O2 would make no difference!

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Client insists that breathing is a MVP feature. I don't really agree given the development costs but whatever it's their disaster.

Xenopoloza commented Jul 7, 2016

Client insists that breathing is a MVP feature. I don't really agree given the development costs but whatever it's their disaster.

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FredDeschenes Jul 7, 2016

Pretty sure this only happens on later versions of the software.

FredDeschenes commented Jul 7, 2016

Pretty sure this only happens on later versions of the software.

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lbotinelly Jul 7, 2016

@Xenopoloza Unreasonable. Let them implement that on their own fork.

lbotinelly commented Jul 7, 2016

@Xenopoloza Unreasonable. Let them implement that on their own fork.

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Your customer's config is wrong.

It works perfectly well in our system. Tell them to freshly install it on a newly installed Ubuntu 14.04 and it should work.

MCSH commented Jul 7, 2016

Your customer's config is wrong.

It works perfectly well in our system. Tell them to freshly install it on a newly installed Ubuntu 14.04 and it should work.

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PabloDinella commented Jul 12, 2016

Same here

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Yea, have you tried Docker?

ModalSeoul commented Jul 12, 2016

Yea, have you tried Docker?

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ShariqKhan2012 Jul 12, 2016

Its not a bug. It is the limitation of the free version. Kindly upgrade to the premium version to enjoy
hazard free cyro tank stirring.

Just kidding. I know its a bug. But nobody clicks on my "Donate via paypal" button, so I ain't going to fix it.
There.. I said it.

ShariqKhan2012 commented Jul 12, 2016

Its not a bug. It is the limitation of the free version. Kindly upgrade to the premium version to enjoy
hazard free cyro tank stirring.

Just kidding. I know its a bug. But nobody clicks on my "Donate via paypal" button, so I ain't going to fix it.
There.. I said it.

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Please find second source.

xchehub commented Jul 12, 2016

Please find second source.

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Cannot replicate on my test system. Please zip up all logs and a memory dump and upload it to the support ftp site. We will get back to you within 24 hours. Have a nice day.

bkowald commented Jul 12, 2016

Cannot replicate on my test system. Please zip up all logs and a memory dump and upload it to the support ftp site. We will get back to you within 24 hours. Have a nice day.

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RedShift1 Jul 12, 2016

It's a network problem. Closing ticket.

RedShift1 commented Jul 12, 2016

It's a network problem. Closing ticket.

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epinapala Jul 12, 2016

This is expected behaviour, In fact its a feature, not a bug.

epinapala commented Jul 12, 2016

This is expected behaviour, In fact its a feature, not a bug.

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I was able to fix this by going into the config files and deleting one called "System32".
Apollo is really tough to boot from then on, but it's a solid fix.

XenArgon commented Jul 12, 2016

I was able to fix this by going into the config files and deleting one called "System32".
Apollo is really tough to boot from then on, but it's a solid fix.

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Login to NDS as admin and type "load landing.nlm"

Erigne commented Jul 13, 2016

Login to NDS as admin and type "load landing.nlm"

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Sprzedam Opla! :D
But seriously guys, that bug is clearly caused by the team not having daily agile stand-ups! Agile would do that the right way!

kzarim commented Jul 13, 2016

Sprzedam Opla! :D
But seriously guys, that bug is clearly caused by the team not having daily agile stand-ups! Agile would do that the right way!

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theodesp Jul 13, 2016

I like my O2 shaken not stirred. Do I have to log in a new issue?

theodesp commented Jul 13, 2016

I like my O2 shaken not stirred. Do I have to log in a new issue?

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Sounds like you have run into a firmware bug and need a sensor replaced.... we can arrange for a new one to be fitted next week that should fix this issue so if you can drop when in the area next we can take a look at it.

rdab100 commented Jul 13, 2016

Sounds like you have run into a firmware bug and need a sensor replaced.... we can arrange for a new one to be fitted next week that should fix this issue so if you can drop when in the area next we can take a look at it.

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ShariqKhan2012 Jul 14, 2016

That's an issue that has been pointed out to us by other users as well.
To get this repaired, please send your unit to our service center. We will repair it/replace it depending on the problem with the pre-requisite being:

  1. you have a valid license of the software; it should not be a pirated copy.
  2. The tank has not been rooted or jailbroken, as it voids the warranty.

ShariqKhan2012 commented Jul 14, 2016

That's an issue that has been pointed out to us by other users as well.
To get this repaired, please send your unit to our service center. We will repair it/replace it depending on the problem with the pre-requisite being:

  1. you have a valid license of the software; it should not be a pirated copy.
  2. The tank has not been rooted or jailbroken, as it voids the warranty.

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guys, with this attitude (see almost all comments above), we'll never reach the moon

wboumans commented Jul 14, 2016

guys, with this attitude (see almost all comments above), we'll never reach the moon

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I just noticed this bug only exists in the 5 bit version. Since we'll be upgrading to the 6 bit version real soon I suggest leaving closed as a WON'T FIX.

timlindsay commented Jul 16, 2016

I just noticed this bug only exists in the 5 bit version. Since we'll be upgrading to the 6 bit version real soon I suggest leaving closed as a WON'T FIX.

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ShariqKhan2012 Jul 16, 2016

I am on Mars for a client assignment right now. So it will be a while before I look into the issue.
Also, I note that you are using a legacy setup that we no longer actively develop.
We will however maintain backward compatibility till 31st Dec 2016. This is part of our strategy to make a streamline move towards cost-effective SpaceX components.
We advice you to upgrade your infrastructure to reflect the same.

That said, we do have a patch for your problem but it wont be until the next release that you can see the fix.
However, if it is very critical for your project, then kindly send over your time signature (in Unix timestamp format) and the value of gravity at your test facility, and one of our engineers will travel back in time to examine and fix the issue.

Thanks.

ShariqKhan2012 commented Jul 16, 2016

I am on Mars for a client assignment right now. So it will be a while before I look into the issue.
Also, I note that you are using a legacy setup that we no longer actively develop.
We will however maintain backward compatibility till 31st Dec 2016. This is part of our strategy to make a streamline move towards cost-effective SpaceX components.
We advice you to upgrade your infrastructure to reflect the same.

That said, we do have a patch for your problem but it wont be until the next release that you can see the fix.
However, if it is very critical for your project, then kindly send over your time signature (in Unix timestamp format) and the value of gravity at your test facility, and one of our engineers will travel back in time to examine and fix the issue.

Thanks.

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Is this happening in sandbox, or a production environment? Engineering is saying the described behavior is impossible, it's got to be an instrumentation issue.

panarchist commented Jul 16, 2016

Is this happening in sandbox, or a production environment? Engineering is saying the described behavior is impossible, it's got to be an instrumentation issue.

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kaleemullah360 Jul 17, 2016

Leave it.
until they provide hardware too :)

kaleemullah360 commented Jul 17, 2016

Leave it.
until they provide hardware too :)

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Your call might be recorded for quality and training purposes

yPhil-gh commented Jul 17, 2016

Your call might be recorded for quality and training purposes

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You forgot to import apollo_11.cms...

vickz84259 commented Jul 18, 2016

You forgot to import apollo_11.cms...

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let me check it out

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🚫 USER ERROR 🚫

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🚫 USER ERROR 🚫

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I just solved the issue. Here's how, have a listen!

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ahmadawais commented Jul 20, 2016

I just solved the issue. Here's how, have a listen!

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Pablo-Ivan Jul 26, 2016

I suggest assigning Stanley Kubrick to fix this issue.

Pablo-Ivan commented Jul 26, 2016

I suggest assigning Stanley Kubrick to fix this issue.

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Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading from Apollo 11 to Apollo 12

@khash We cannot upgrade simply because by our 60's semver rules the V12 contains "breaking" changes.

pantaluna commented Aug 17, 2016

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading from Apollo 11 to Apollo 12

@khash We cannot upgrade simply because by our 60's semver rules the V12 contains "breaking" changes.

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humantorch Sep 15, 2016

This never would have happened when Steve Jobs was alive.

humantorch commented Sep 15, 2016

This never would have happened when Steve Jobs was alive.

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And that's why we should use docker, could have reproduced the issue easily.

sdhar86 commented Sep 15, 2016

And that's why we should use docker, could have reproduced the issue easily.

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cristianmedeiros Sep 16, 2016

works on my machine

cristianmedeiros commented Sep 16, 2016

works on my machine

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aniruddhas Sep 17, 2016

You guys are trying to solve an issue which doesn't exist in future.
The Doctor has already solved it in past future.
In his words:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."

So, let's stop being geeky and go back to humour, ehh?

aniruddhas commented Sep 17, 2016

You guys are trying to solve an issue which doesn't exist in future.
The Doctor has already solved it in past future.
In his words:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."

So, let's stop being geeky and go back to humour, ehh?

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Unless someone can point to the specific user story in the functional design document that proves this is not working as intended, this should be considered a billable change request. Please submit this to the internal review board for discussion at next month's meeting.

brossow commented Jan 24, 2017

Unless someone can point to the specific user story in the functional design document that proves this is not working as intended, this should be considered a billable change request. Please submit this to the internal review board for discussion at next month's meeting.

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if we split the tank and stirrer into separate micro-services and implement some sort of ESB, then at least we can deal with faults in isolation. I highly recommend [flavour of the day] hosting service, in my experience they have been A1 and their 24hr support is awesome.

timlindsay commented Feb 5, 2017

if we split the tank and stirrer into separate micro-services and implement some sort of ESB, then at least we can deal with faults in isolation. I highly recommend [flavour of the day] hosting service, in my experience they have been A1 and their 24hr support is awesome.

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Silmar Apr 3, 2017

There is a plugin for jQuery that fixes it. Google4it.

Silmar commented Apr 3, 2017

There is a plugin for jQuery that fixes it. Google4it.

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1337ninja Apr 5, 2017

And that's why we have not sent anyone to the moon for 47 years! Please use upcoming Android O which comes with blazing vibration support for stirring (android.os.Vibrator.vibrate())

1337ninja commented Apr 5, 2017

And that's why we have not sent anyone to the moon for 47 years! Please use upcoming Android O which comes with blazing vibration support for stirring (android.os.Vibrator.vibrate())

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orcaman Apr 5, 2017

I think it's time we re-write this node.js code in golang.

orcaman commented Apr 5, 2017

I think it's time we re-write this node.js code in golang.

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