Check continuity on O2 cryogenic tanks before allowing stir

[LeoTindall]

A customer has had a fairly serious problem with stirring the cryogenic tanks with a circuit fault present. To reproduce:

1. Build CSM
2. Perform mission up to translunar coast
3. During translunar coast, attempt to stir cryo tanks

If a wiring fault exists, the issue may be replicated. Be aware that this may be hazardous to the tester attempting it.

[electron0zero]

i think this issue should be closed because we can't reproduce it

[electron0zero]

i think this issue should be closed because we can't reproduce it

[lbotinelly]

Does it happens only with translunar coast (sol-3-a), or any moon coasting? It may be a problem with the moon. Just trying to narrow down the issue.

[lbotinelly]

Does it happens only with translunar coast (sol-3-a), or any moon coasting? It may be a problem with the moon. Just trying to narrow down the issue.

[pjanaya]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[pjanaya]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[atpage]

This is fixed in Apollo 14.

[atpage]

This is fixed in Apollo 14.

[adampats]

This is a hardware problem. I suggest a wontfix and close.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13a_Summary.htm

In other words: "What was that gauge reading before you hit the switch?"

[adampats]

This is a hardware problem. I suggest a wontfix and close.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13a_Summary.htm

In other words: "What was that gauge reading before you hit the switch?"

[LeoTindall]

@adampats Hey, don't tell me how to fly the CM, all right? They brought me in here to do a job, they asked me to stir the tanks, and I stirred the tanks!

[LeoTindall]

@adampats Hey, don't tell me how to fly the CM, all right? They brought me in here to do a job, they asked me to stir the tanks, and I stirred the tanks!

[leommoore]

As a temporary solution, you could try gently rolling the CM/LAM to agitate the O2. You may need to do it on the X and Y axis to get optimal agitation.

[leommoore]

As a temporary solution, you could try gently rolling the CM/LAM to agitate the O2. You may need to do it on the X and Y axis to get optimal agitation.

[chrislgarry]

@silverwingedseraph could you provide a screen shot of the error I should expect to see during repro?

[chrislgarry]

@silverwingedseraph could you provide a screen shot of the error I should expect to see during repro?

[AdamFreemer]

Let's work the problem people.

[AdamFreemer]

Let's work the problem people.

[LeoTindall]

@chrislgarry It looks a little something like this:

[LeoTindall]

@chrislgarry It looks a little something like this:

[khash]

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading to Apollo 12

[khash]

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading to Apollo 12

[lbotinelly]

Not specifically for this issue, but maybe we should consider trimming down. I'm pretty sure we can automate this, eliminating both meatbags and O2 tanks from the final implementation.

[lbotinelly]

Not specifically for this issue, but maybe we should consider trimming down. I'm pretty sure we can automate this, eliminating both meatbags and O2 tanks from the final implementation.

[Wazzaps]

Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

[Wazzaps]

Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

[AdamFreemer]

Many bug fixes were addressed in Apollo 18 mission software, until the bugs infected the astronauts.

[AdamFreemer]

Many bug fixes were addressed in Apollo 18 mission software, until the bugs infected the astronauts.

[predicat]

It works for me

[predicat]

It works for me

[lparkermg]

So, I think it might be a hardware issue. Have you tried taking the tanks out and putting them back in again? Maybe that will fix it.

[lparkermg]

So, I think it might be a hardware issue. Have you tried taking the tanks out and putting them back in again? Maybe that will fix it.

[g0ddish]

@atpage Savage

[g0ddish]

@atpage Savage

[stkrzysiak]

We're going to need a label for good first bug, agreed?

[stkrzysiak]

We're going to need a label for good first bug, agreed?

[lparkermg]

@stkrzysiak It's got to be a hardware tag if what @atpage said is true.

[lparkermg]

@stkrzysiak It's got to be a hardware tag if what @atpage said is true.

[autoferrit]

@Wazzaps
Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

we have tried converting to node. heres a mockup.

http://svtsim.com/moonjs/agc.html

[autoferrit]

@Wazzaps
Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

we have tried converting to node. heres a mockup.

http://svtsim.com/moonjs/agc.html

[AstraSerg]

Which exactly Universe do you use when face this bug?

[AstraSerg]

Which exactly Universe do you use when face this bug?

[Xenopoloza]

Just had this issue happen to me, I took a screenshot.

[Xenopoloza]

Just had this issue happen to me, I took a screenshot.

[JohnTendik]

Did you try uninstalling the drivers then reinstalling them?

[JohnTendik]

Did you try uninstalling the drivers then reinstalling them?

[bstiller1]

Looks like there could be an ID10T error, along with some memory leaks.

[bstiller1]

Looks like there could be an ID10T error, along with some memory leaks.

[ireun]

Well, can I just update the firmware to fix this issue? Or do I have to take my Apollo to local NASA-spacecraft dealer?

Really frustrating!

[ireun]

Well, can I just update the firmware to fix this issue? Or do I have to take my Apollo to local NASA-spacecraft dealer?

Really frustrating!

[WebSpanner]

This software has reached end of life and is no longer receiving security updates. NASA strongly recommends that you migrate to a supported version. Unfortunately no such version exists at this time.

[WebSpanner]

This software has reached end of life and is no longer receiving security updates. NASA strongly recommends that you migrate to a supported version. Unfortunately no such version exists at this time.

[Xenopoloza]

Ok I'm in a real pickle here, after you experience this issue apparently you can't simply reboot to fix it. Does anyone have a good workaround? Also my CO2 is getting pretty high, please answer quickly this is a production issue for me.

[Xenopoloza]

Ok I'm in a real pickle here, after you experience this issue apparently you can't simply reboot to fix it. Does anyone have a good workaround? Also my CO2 is getting pretty high, please answer quickly this is a production issue for me.

[kiweb]

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[kiweb]

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[luislobo]

Well, I run the unit tests and it says 0 errors...

[luislobo]

Well, I run the unit tests and it says 0 errors...

[AnthonyRinaldi]

Did you try SCE to AUX?

[AnthonyRinaldi]

Did you try SCE to AUX?

[yeukhon]

Who is the project manager? This change request is getting out of hand. I request a formal review. Let's bring back Waterfall. This is nonsensical that we have to argue whether this is a feature or a bug.

[yeukhon]

Who is the project manager? This change request is getting out of hand. I request a formal review. Let's bring back Waterfall. This is nonsensical that we have to argue whether this is a feature or a bug.

[acicali]

This repo really adds to the legitimacy of Stanley Kubrick's short fictional film "Lunar Landing", starring Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

Nice work guys.

[acicali]

This repo really adds to the legitimacy of Stanley Kubrick's short fictional film "Lunar Landing", starring Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

Nice work guys.

[aoozdemir]

This issue made my day. 😃 You guys are amazing.

[aoozdemir]

This issue made my day. 😃 You guys are amazing.

[wanted0]

Yeah, if we can't solve it, let's think abouta workaround. I believe we should start by collecting all the tools we have.

The Tape with Duct software, Socks proxy and some in-hose tools could help.

[wanted0]

Yeah, if we can't solve it, let's think abouta workaround. I believe we should start by collecting all the tools we have.

The Tape with Duct software, Socks proxy and some in-hose tools could help.

[nabijaczleweli]

Have you tried not breathing? Then having no O₂ would make no difference!

[nabijaczleweli]

Have you tried not breathing? Then having no O₂ would make no difference!

[Xenopoloza]

Client insists that breathing is a MVP feature. I don't really agree given the development costs but whatever it's their disaster.

[Xenopoloza]

Client insists that breathing is a MVP feature. I don't really agree given the development costs but whatever it's their disaster.

[FredDeschenes]

Pretty sure this only happens on later versions of the software.

[FredDeschenes]

Pretty sure this only happens on later versions of the software.

[lbotinelly]

@Xenopoloza Unreasonable. Let them implement that on their own fork.

[lbotinelly]

@Xenopoloza Unreasonable. Let them implement that on their own fork.

[MCSH]

Your customer's config is wrong.

It works perfectly well in our system. Tell them to freshly install it on a newly installed Ubuntu 14.04 and it should work.

[MCSH]

Your customer's config is wrong.

It works perfectly well in our system. Tell them to freshly install it on a newly installed Ubuntu 14.04 and it should work.

[PabloDinella]

Same here

[PabloDinella]

Same here

[ModalSeoul]

Yea, have you tried Docker?

[ModalSeoul]

Yea, have you tried Docker?

[ShariqKhan2012]

Its not a bug. It is the limitation of the free version. Kindly upgrade to the premium version to enjoy
hazard free cyro tank stirring.

Just kidding. I know its a bug. But nobody clicks on my "Donate via paypal" button, so I ain't going to fix it.
There.. I said it.

[ShariqKhan2012]

Its not a bug. It is the limitation of the free version. Kindly upgrade to the premium version to enjoy
hazard free cyro tank stirring.

Just kidding. I know its a bug. But nobody clicks on my "Donate via paypal" button, so I ain't going to fix it.
There.. I said it.

[xchehub]

Please find second source.

[xchehub]

Please find second source.

[bkowald]

Cannot replicate on my test system. Please zip up all logs and a memory dump and upload it to the support ftp site. We will get back to you within 24 hours. Have a nice day.

[bkowald]

Cannot replicate on my test system. Please zip up all logs and a memory dump and upload it to the support ftp site. We will get back to you within 24 hours. Have a nice day.

[RedShift1]

It's a network problem. Closing ticket.

[RedShift1]

It's a network problem. Closing ticket.

[epinapala]

This is expected behaviour, In fact its a feature, not a bug.

[epinapala]

This is expected behaviour, In fact its a feature, not a bug.

[XenArgon]

I was able to fix this by going into the config files and deleting one called "System32".
Apollo is really tough to boot from then on, but it's a solid fix.

[XenArgon]

I was able to fix this by going into the config files and deleting one called "System32".
Apollo is really tough to boot from then on, but it's a solid fix.

[Erigne]

Login to NDS as admin and type "load landing.nlm"

[Erigne]

Login to NDS as admin and type "load landing.nlm"

[kzarim]

Sprzedam Opla! :D
But seriously guys, that bug is clearly caused by the team not having daily agile stand-ups! Agile would do that the right way!

[kzarim]

Sprzedam Opla! :D
But seriously guys, that bug is clearly caused by the team not having daily agile stand-ups! Agile would do that the right way!

[theodesp]

I like my O2 shaken not stirred. Do I have to log in a new issue?

[theodesp]

I like my O2 shaken not stirred. Do I have to log in a new issue?

[rdab100]

Sounds like you have run into a firmware bug and need a sensor replaced.... we can arrange for a new one to be fitted next week that should fix this issue so if you can drop when in the area next we can take a look at it.

[rdab100]

Sounds like you have run into a firmware bug and need a sensor replaced.... we can arrange for a new one to be fitted next week that should fix this issue so if you can drop when in the area next we can take a look at it.

[ShariqKhan2012]

That's an issue that has been pointed out to us by other users as well.
To get this repaired, please send your unit to our service center. We will repair it/replace it depending on the problem with the pre-requisite being:

1. you have a valid license of the software; it should not be a pirated copy.
2. The tank has not been rooted or jailbroken, as it voids the warranty.

[ShariqKhan2012]

That's an issue that has been pointed out to us by other users as well.
To get this repaired, please send your unit to our service center. We will repair it/replace it depending on the problem with the pre-requisite being:

1. you have a valid license of the software; it should not be a pirated copy.
2. The tank has not been rooted or jailbroken, as it voids the warranty.

[wboumans]

guys, with this attitude (see almost all comments above), we'll never reach the moon

[wboumans]

guys, with this attitude (see almost all comments above), we'll never reach the moon

[timlindsay]

I just noticed this bug only exists in the 5 bit version. Since we'll be upgrading to the 6 bit version real soon I suggest leaving closed as a WON'T FIX.

[timlindsay]

I just noticed this bug only exists in the 5 bit version. Since we'll be upgrading to the 6 bit version real soon I suggest leaving closed as a WON'T FIX.

[ShariqKhan2012]

I am on Mars for a client assignment right now. So it will be a while before I look into the issue.
Also, I note that you are using a legacy setup that we no longer actively develop.
We will however maintain backward compatibility till 31st Dec 2016. This is part of our strategy to make a streamline move towards cost-effective SpaceX components.
We advice you to upgrade your infrastructure to reflect the same.

That said, we do have a patch for your problem but it wont be until the next release that you can see the fix.
However, if it is very critical for your project, then kindly send over your time signature (in Unix timestamp format) and the value of gravity at your test facility, and one of our engineers will travel back in time to examine and fix the issue.

Thanks.

[ShariqKhan2012]

I am on Mars for a client assignment right now. So it will be a while before I look into the issue.
Also, I note that you are using a legacy setup that we no longer actively develop.
We will however maintain backward compatibility till 31st Dec 2016. This is part of our strategy to make a streamline move towards cost-effective SpaceX components.
We advice you to upgrade your infrastructure to reflect the same.

That said, we do have a patch for your problem but it wont be until the next release that you can see the fix.
However, if it is very critical for your project, then kindly send over your time signature (in Unix timestamp format) and the value of gravity at your test facility, and one of our engineers will travel back in time to examine and fix the issue.

Thanks.

[panarchist]

Is this happening in sandbox, or a production environment? Engineering is saying the described behavior is impossible, it's got to be an instrumentation issue.

[panarchist]

Is this happening in sandbox, or a production environment? Engineering is saying the described behavior is impossible, it's got to be an instrumentation issue.

[kaleemullah360]

Leave it.
until they provide hardware too :)

[kaleemullah360]

Leave it.
until they provide hardware too :)

[yassinphilip]

Your call might be recorded for quality and training purposes

[yassinphilip]

Your call might be recorded for quality and training purposes

[vickz84259]

You forgot to import apollo_11.cms...

[vickz84259]

You forgot to import apollo_11.cms...

[Domminique]

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[dreamyguy]

🚫 USER ERROR 🚫

[dreamyguy]

🚫 USER ERROR 🚫

[ahmadawais]

I just solved the issue. Here's how, have a listen!

▶ 🔘──────── 00:21

[ahmadawais]

I just solved the issue. Here's how, have a listen!

▶ 🔘──────── 00:21

[Pablo-Ivan]

I suggest assigning Stanley Kubrick to fix this issue.

[Pablo-Ivan]

I suggest assigning Stanley Kubrick to fix this issue.

[pantaluna]

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading from Apollo 11 to Apollo 12

@khash We cannot upgrade simply because by our 60's semver rules the V12 contains "breaking" changes.

[pantaluna]

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading from Apollo 11 to Apollo 12

@khash We cannot upgrade simply because by our 60's semver rules the V12 contains "breaking" changes.

[humantorch]

This never would have happened when Steve Jobs was alive.

[humantorch]

This never would have happened when Steve Jobs was alive.

[sdhar86]

And that's why we should use docker, could have reproduced the issue easily.

[sdhar86]

And that's why we should use docker, could have reproduced the issue easily.

[cristianmedeiros]

works on my machine

[cristianmedeiros]

works on my machine

[aniruddhas]

You guys are trying to solve an issue which doesn't exist in future.
The Doctor has already solved it in past future.
In his words:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."

So, let's stop being geeky and go back to humour, ehh?

[aniruddhas]

You guys are trying to solve an issue which doesn't exist in future.
The Doctor has already solved it in past future.
In his words:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."

So, let's stop being geeky and go back to humour, ehh?

[brossow]

Unless someone can point to the specific user story in the functional design document that proves this is not working as intended, this should be considered a billable change request. Please submit this to the internal review board for discussion at next month's meeting.

[brossow]

Unless someone can point to the specific user story in the functional design document that proves this is not working as intended, this should be considered a billable change request. Please submit this to the internal review board for discussion at next month's meeting.

[timlindsay]

if we split the tank and stirrer into separate micro-services and implement some sort of ESB, then at least we can deal with faults in isolation. I highly recommend [flavour of the day] hosting service, in my experience they have been A1 and their 24hr support is awesome.

[timlindsay]

if we split the tank and stirrer into separate micro-services and implement some sort of ESB, then at least we can deal with faults in isolation. I highly recommend [flavour of the day] hosting service, in my experience they have been A1 and their 24hr support is awesome.

[Silmar]

There is a plugin for jQuery that fixes it. Google4it.

[Silmar]

There is a plugin for jQuery that fixes it. Google4it.

[1337ninja]

And that's why we have not sent anyone to the moon for 47 years! Please use upcoming Android O which comes with blazing vibration support for stirring (android.os.Vibrator.vibrate())

[1337ninja]

And that's why we have not sent anyone to the moon for 47 years! Please use upcoming Android O which comes with blazing vibration support for stirring (android.os.Vibrator.vibrate())

[orcaman]

I think it's time we re-write this node.js code in golang.

[orcaman]

I think it's time we re-write this node.js code in golang.