Allow state to be required, optional or disabled

[havenswift-hosting]

The county / state field should not always be a required field and having this validation causes a lot of different problems. A little while ago, a status tick box was added for a country so that only those that were enabled are listed in the country dropdown - what is needed is a similar thing for counties / states / regions

1. You can have a country enabled which doesnt have any regions set and yet CubeCart still insists that a value is entered

2. While strictly true that the City of London is in the Greater London region, nobody would ever write their address like that but that is what you are forced to do.

3. Very few people in the UK use county now and in fact the Post Office actively discourages the use of this on addresses - town, postcode is what should be used

4. In some countries it is very important ie USA and especially Spain so there should be a way to validate and enforce that these are entered

5. Ref point 3, the Post Office checking software doesnt even return the county as part of the address validation - so for example when using the Crafty Clicks plugin with CubeCart, you enter the postcode and choose which address which doesnt include a county, then hit save and it complains about the county being empty !

A quick solution would be to remove any validation on this field - if anything is selected via dropdown or manually entered, then that can be stored, but an empty value should be possible and should be the default even for those countries where zones are entered.

Another better solution might be a tick box against the zones and then if a zone exists for a country and has the box ticked, it is listed in the dropdown and one of those or a blank entry has to be selected. If a zone exists but is unticked, then it doesnt appear in the dropdown

[bhsmither]

Possible duplicate of #1708.

[abrookbanks]

A quick solution would be to remove any validation on this field

I'm not sure it's that simple especially with historical garbage in the state field which has caused problems in the past requiring validation. AVS issues too?

Maybe we could trial this in a future mid point release with state as optional per country.

[abrookbanks]

Also relates to #1720

[abrookbanks]

As much as this scares me I think it needs addressing (excuse the pun LOL).

I just want to figure out the best way. Do we need an option to select against each country.

e.g.
France

• Disabled
• Enabled (zone required)
• Enabled (zone enabled but optional)
• Enabled (zone disabled)

[havenswift-hosting]

You could do it that way and that would solve 99% of current problems people are having - the only additional thing you could add would be to also have an enabled / disabled flag on each zone as well. Would only come into effect if country is enabled and the zone is either required or optional - would enable some zones to be excluded without having to delete them

[abrookbanks]

Yes that would be the icing on the cake.

[abrookbanks]

I'm going to see if we can get this into 6.2.

[abrookbanks]

BIG question.. what happens if these fields are not required or disabled but the customer has a shipping method like all in one shipping broken down by state??

I don't think this can be coded to check the requirements of each extension?

[havenswift-hosting]

what happens if these fields are not required or disabled but the customer has a shipping method like all in one shipping broken down by state?

That is a store owner config problem and stupidity should be no reason to force "functionality" that breaks a lot of stores. New stores could have countries and zones enabled by default to preserve the current situation and then if settings are changed, it is down to the store owner to ensure that it works

[abrookbanks]

Yes I agree. I'm over complicating this.

[abrookbanks]

[bhsmither]

I see that if a country has associated states/counties/whatever, being listed in Cubecart_geo_zone, the related form fields would be a required drop-down selector.

So, if a country is now recommended to disregard state/county, would not the simple solution be to remove them from CubeCart_geo_zone?

[havenswift-hosting]

lol - it certainly isnt !

[abrookbanks]

Hehe.. 6.2 will have a short beta so we can see how this goes. We should now have the addresses formatted to Royal Mail standards.

miss s pollard
1 chapel hill
heswell
bournemouth
bh1 1aa
United Kingdom

should now show like..

[abrookbanks]

Sauce (Tomato): https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/81/~/clear-addressing---how-to-address-your-mail

[havenswift-hosting]

Looking forward to testing it when you are happy to release the beta

[abrookbanks]

Thanks. Not too far off now.

[abrookbanks]

The country will only show on invoices now if its not a national order.

[havenswift-hosting]

I saw you had included that - are you going to be looking at different address layouts depending on country ? There arent too many different formats

[havenswift-hosting]

Most of Western Europe (excluding UK) is the same (with slight differences in upper case and capitalisation)

https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/112/related/1

[abrookbanks]

Not for this release I don't think. Most countries have the town in upper case so we should at least be better than we were.

[abrookbanks]

Reopening because I think the upgrade should make state optional by default aside from Argentina, Brazil, Canada, China, Indonesia, India, Japan, Mexico, Thailand or USA.

[Dirty-Butter]

It would be very helpful if there were a way to Search for a country in order to change the State and EU settings.

[theoneandonly-vector]

I don't see any status drop-down, it's still the tick/untick over here.

[abrookbanks]

Then your store hasn't been upgraded to the latest version fully.

[theoneandonly-vector]

what can I do to update it fully? I uploaded the latest files from github and ran the setup.. it shows it's v.6.2.1 now. Al Brookbanks <notifications@github.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:54:

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[Dirty-Butter]

I am having an issue with the Required placeholder on 6.2.1 latest commit. See https://forums.cubecart.com/topic/53956-problem-with-state-placeholder-in-620/

It's also showing on the 6.2.0 Demo store.

[theoneandonly-vector]

any additional info pls.. I also tried it on a 2nd setup, which doesn't work too..

[abrookbanks]

This is not a tech support channel.

[theoneandonly-vector]

this isn't about getting tech support.. there is a fault in the upgrade procedure. this can't be fixed by tech support..
this kind of interaction already happened here:
#1900

there is no way I did something wrong updating it.

[abrookbanks]

6.2.1 isn't released yet so its really not a good idea to be trying to use it. Please keep with 6.2.0 for now.

[abrookbanks]

I don't see any status drop-down, it's still the tick/untick over here.

You can't have upgraded properly. If you don't see the drop down menus then the code of your store is still at 6.0.x or 6.1.x.

[theoneandonly-vector]

what could have gone wrong by uploading a clone of github's 6.2.1 and running the setup upgrade process? it even shows me 6.2.1 in settings.

[abrookbanks]

If we add more changed to the 6.2.1 upgrade then when you upgrade to 6.2.2 these will be missed as it will already think it is fully upgraded to 6.2.1 when its not been fully. This could have some significant consequences from a stability point of view.

If you don't see a drop down next to each country then the code isn't at 6.2.x. Check the files uploaded overwriting the existing ones and please don't forget not to upload the /admin folder as it is. It needs to be renamed accordingly to the name of your admin folder (e.g. "admin_xxxxx").

[theoneandonly-vector]

thank you very very much! Al Brookbanks <notifications@github.com> schrieb am Di., 8. Mai 2018, 17:44:

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If we add more changed to the 6.2.1 upgrade then when you upgrade to 6.2.2 these will be missed as it will already think it is fully upgraded to 6.2.1 when its not been fully. This could have some significant consequences from a stability point of view. If you don't see a drop down next to each country then the code isn't at 6.2.1. Check the files uploaded overwriting the existing ones and please don't forget *not* to upload the /admin folder as it is. It needs to be renamed accordingly to the name of your admin folder (e.g. "admin_xxxxx"). — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1870 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AJ5jE2Z91uV6u1XDUailCpOKhr3yqkDQks5twb1lgaJpZM4SHFFQ> .

[abrookbanks]

Ok now? What was the problem?

[theoneandonly-vector]

I don't know exactly, need to be an update-setup fail. I just did what you wrote and it's working now. Al Brookbanks <notifications@github.com> schrieb am Di., 8. Mai 2018, 22:59:

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[abrookbanks]

Ok so it wasn't a fault after all. A support issue.😁

Pleased it is ok now.

[Dirty-Butter]

I had a comment 3 days ago in this thread that looks like it kind of got lost in the conversation with vector. It concerns the State Required placeholder showing in the wrong situation.
https://forums.cubecart.com/topic/53956-problem-with-state-placeholder-in-620/