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Document live streaming for Core Dev Calls #29

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bmann opened this issue Apr 4, 2019 · 25 comments
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Document live streaming for Core Dev Calls #29

bmann opened this issue Apr 4, 2019 · 25 comments

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@bmann
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bmann commented Apr 4, 2019

On Twitter / Reddit, @Souptacular announced that only a few people know how to livestream.

It would be good to document this and give other people permission.

See https://en.ethereum.wiki/infrastructure#all-core-dev-calls for a start and some questions

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On YouTube permissions, if you have permission to livestream you also have permission to delete videos. It is a huge risk to allow more than a few people to have that access.

Alternatively, we can have someone stream it to their own account and then afterwards we can upload it to the ethereumfoundation YouTube channel.

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bmann commented Apr 4, 2019

This is the research I did on managing a brand account / permissions for managers https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/4628007?hl=en

If the ethereumfoundation account is not set up as a brand account, then it should be.

Also, if that's the only source of those videos, maybe we can download them and archive them somewhere else?

I think @timbeiko said he could do this. Do you trust him to have access for 24 hours? Alternately, Tim, are you comfortable streaming on your own account?

Note: that I don't really care that strongly about whether or things get streamed on April 12th. I do care about community infrastructure being documented so we know who has control of what and what the backup plan is.

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Souptacular commented Apr 4, 2019

I'll talk to Tim about streaming it for April 12th. We can also move the videos off of Ethereum Foundation YouTube infra. at some point if there is a better place for them.

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Whoops closed it.

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timbeiko commented Apr 4, 2019

I'm happy to try and stream it. IMO it'd be a bit weird for it to be on my personal account. I can imagine people being put off by that, but if it's better than nothing, sure. Hudson and I have a call scheduled today, we can go over that during it and report back here :-)

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lrettig commented Apr 4, 2019

Can we just set up a new "allcoredevs" brand account? And Twitter too. And blog.

It's time.

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timbeiko commented Apr 4, 2019

I think it maybe makes sense to keep the AllCoreDevs calls on the EF account, but maybe find a way to broaden access. Re: Twitter, someone registered EthCoreDevs and I managed to snag AllCoreDevs. Not sure if there is a way to allow multiple people on it. For a blog, isn't that EthMagicians 😛?

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lrettig commented Apr 4, 2019

There is no EthMagicians blog. And I think there might be value in having a more quasi-official blog where the core devs can post things, apart from EF. It's not urgent.

You can share a Twitter account using Tweetdeck!

Why do you think it makes sense to keep the calls on the EF account?

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timbeiko commented Apr 4, 2019

You can share a Twitter account using Tweetdeck!

Good to know! Not sure what the next steps would be here. How do we get rough consensus on whether this is valuable or whether it just adds noise?

Why do you think it makes sense to keep the calls on the EF account?

The reach, mostly. Also, if we can set up multiple users on an AllCoreDevs account, then why shouldn't we do just that with the EF one?

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sneg55 commented Apr 4, 2019

Can we just set up a new "allcoredevs" brand account? And Twitter too. And blog.

Maybe even stand-alone site for Allcoredevs?

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Why do you think it makes sense to keep the calls on the EF account?

The reach, mostly. Also, if we can set up multiple users on an AllCoreDevs account, then why shouldn't we do just that with the EF one?

The issue is that the Ethereum Foundation YouTube account is a brand account and so anyone who has access to the brand account can delete videos, even with the lowest privileges. I am starting to get more comfortable with the idea of letting people who are filling in get temporary access to the channel to do the recording as long as they are trusted. I may also set up something to backup the video files in a way so we don't have to fear deletion.

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bmann commented Apr 4, 2019

@lrettig no to separate AllCoreDevs blog twitter etc — this is busy work that already isn’t handled as well as it should, and I’m pretty sure ACD would NOT want this. It really is a coordination channel and we’re adding more overhead.

I treat EthMagicians as my community blog. Having an Announcements channel or process is possible as well.

Also — this is all OT, file new issues and/or kick off discussion in the forum for further discussion.

Technically this is documentation issue, plus ideally @timbeiko & @Souptacular supporting each other.

@Souptacular
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Auryn has volunteered to record the meeting this next week and he helped me with some ways we can better make sure that people can easily stream to the EF YouTube channel in the future.

@mariapaulafn
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Hey @Souptacular for emergencies - I have tried this transcribing service that's really accurate, and not expensive. If at some point we cannot find a note taker - if the call is recorded I can send it there and clean them up, I was really surprised with the accuracy. https://gotranscript.com/

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mariapaulafn commented Apr 5, 2019

@lrettig there is an ETHMagicians Medium Blog. We just hardly use it :)
Can give you access @timbeiko https://medium.com/ethereum-magicians/
Also happy to set up a blog, twitter and maintain them - provided I get the notes to be able to do so (the core devs call collides with one of my work's ones so sometimes it's hard to attend but definitely can help with social media)

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bmann commented Apr 6, 2019

@Souptacular can we get some of this documented? Questions are on the wiki.

Some of it maybe not because of IPSec concerns but in general should know some people / who to contact if anything needed.

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bmann commented Apr 6, 2019

I'm adding the open questions from the wiki (I justed edited them based on some answers here):

  • who has commit access / can manage issues on the ethereum/pm repo
  • what is the setup for YouTube livestreaming? anything that needs documenting?

Would love to close this if we can get these two last items answered. :)

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@Souptacular you mentioned that Auryn helped with "some ways we can better make sure that people can easily stream to the EF YouTube channel in the future."

Is this documented anywhere?

Also, do you have an update on @bmann's questions above?

Thanks!

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lrettig commented Jun 15, 2019

who has commit access / can manage issues on the ethereum/pm repo

@cdetrio, @vbuterin, @Souptacular, @5chdn, and myself

what is the setup for YouTube livestreaming? anything that needs documenting?

Hudson put together a document and shared it with me before - will let him share it here.

@timbeiko
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Cool, once that document is shared, if it can be, then we can close this. We can follow up with Hudson on the next call if he's there.

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Here is the doc! Comments on it are left open.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dF_Drs56ErV6wJgFmbzpdN-cINshKCsB61D92NS2JDg/edit

Idk where it should go permanently so people can reference it.

@lrettig
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lrettig commented Jun 21, 2019

Idk where it should go permanently so people can reference it.

Maybe we can move it into an ECH github repo or wiki?

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As much as I'd like to see the ECH Repo become the default place for issues, given that this specifically relates to calls whose agenda are in ethereum/pm, perhaps having it as a markdown file there with the contents from this doc makes the most sense. What do you think?

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lrettig commented Jun 22, 2019

What do you think?

Move ethereum/pm to ethereum-cat-herders :)

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Just opened ethereum/pm#108 and accidentally already merged the change on this repo, here

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