Not an issue, only annoying in-video ads

[ghost]

This is not really the place to expose a quest for a rule but since all ads are handled here and now with my uBo rules and that I encounter one place which has recently made some changes to impose in-video ads, I'll assume my rudeness and pray for pardon (wow!):

Dailymotion.com now carries on in-video ads which appear randomly here. I've tried everything I could, was aware of, nothing does it. My uBo settings are "extreme" : blocks by default 3-rd party / 3-rd party scripts / 3-rd party frames. Authorized the minimum to allow site & video correct dsplays.

I'm not only bothered with these intrusive in-video ads but also puzzled.
Forgot to mention that these video ads appear with a counter (top-right) and that if I click on the ad-video (so as to halt it) it opens a new tab, blank here since the new tab's content must have been blocked by uBo.

Sorry again and thanks (a lot) if anyone can find the correct rule to stop this intruder :)
I won't make it a habit, first & last time, promised!

[gorhill]

Does this work for you?

||dailymotion.com/ac/video/$image,first-party,redirect=2x2-transparent.png

If it works I will add it to uBO's own filters.

Note: No need to walk on eggs regarding filters, the guideline is simple: if something cannot be blocked by EasyList (due to ABP's limitations) or if it can be blocked by EasyList but at the cost of having to create undesirable exception filters (like @@||pubads.g.doubleclick.net), I will be happy to look into it, this is what motivated me to extend uBO's capabilities in the first place.

[ghost]

Many thanks, gorhill! The rule you've provided above seems to do the job 👍
I do say "seems" because as I stated above the in-video ads appear(ed) randomly; I've tested several videos and all rendered nicely as if the intruder was kicked out : no words to express this particular feeling!
OK for the guideline, thanks for the information. Much appreciated.

Off-topic : gorhill, uBlockO is really a beautiful product, the very first add-on I'd install on a new browser. really an everyday companion. And so many users happy, relaxed, unstressed... I cannot close this off-topic without wishing to you, to all, and to uBlockOrigin the Very Best For A Very Happy New Year! (and this enthusiastic sincerity is not a mental consequence of my joy to have this new rule!)

Thanks again.

[gorhill]

I get an ad with that video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3jubr9_people-wiping-out-on-their-hoverboards-is-the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving_news.

[ghost]

I've just tested the video you mention, gorhill, as well, again, several others, and all ad-free.
This disparity may be relevant of the random distribution of in-video ads at Dailymotion,
I'll keep on testing other videos.
I've tested your video with and without a rule I added yesterday,

• mc.dailymotion.com * block
  and in both cases, no ads. * mc.dailymotion.com * block because all runs fine without mc.dailymotion.com and that I've been unable to find info about it, so for the time being I've blocked it, but doesn't seem to be pertinent in this scenario.

EDIT: I've ran several Dailymotion videos right now, including those which included ads last night, and still no ads since the above rule was added. I just cannot understand how you got that in-video ad, gorhill. I wonder what Dailymotion is up to. Maybe are they basing their ad policy on a user's IP? No idea, but it's been random until the above rule and ads could theoretically re-appear since you've had at least one video with the ad. Above not only my skills but my very understanding.

[gorhill]

Hmm I am unable to reproduce the ad, I think I may have not been using the filter above after I added it to uBO's filter list and removed it from my custom filters.

[ghost]

That would explain it all. Anyway, if I meet the in-video ads again I'll post it here if the topic is still opened.
Thanks, gorhill.

[ghost]

Not sure if I should post here since the thread is closed or open a new issue ... sorry if I mistake. I'm really not a techie guy....

The rule mentioned above, if it seemed to work for some time, appears now nonfunctional.
Dailymotion has found a very ingenious way to impose its in-video ads, as before they are injected randomly and difficult to reproduce on one link. On the homesite as well as embedded. A true pain. I just cannot and will not accept to be force-feeded for the sake of a video, but on another hand several sites (mainly here in France) decided to choose Dailymotion as a partner and therefor avoiding Dailymotion means missing those embedded videos.

I truly hope a rule will be able to circumvent this nasty in-video advertisement.
Thanks.

[gorhill]

I need a specific URL where you see an ad.

[ghost]

I have a site with embedded Dailymotion : http://www.franceinfo.fr/
It displays the in-video ad almost systematically, but not always. Under there are several other videos, all handled by Dailymotion and, viewing one after another leads more likely to one carrying an in-video ad.
The vicious thing here is the random distribution.

Thanks, gorhill

[gorhill]

These are Flash-based players. This is a live-stream of a radio station, there is no way ads can be blocked, they are not separated from the content itself.

[ghost]

Flash is removed here, only HTML5, and if indeed the above site's introduction page is that of radio (audio only) I nevertheless have it play an in-video ad (randomly) before getting to the audio only radio ... just tested it again, with the video ad appearing. Maybe an HTML5 specificity?

The site I mentioned, which has Dailymotion as partner, has a dedicated video page: http://www.franceinfo.fr/videos

About Flash and HTML5, many sites don't call HTML5 if they notice the user's browser runs Flash ...

[gorhill]

There is a thread on ABP forum about this: https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43430&p=145703.

The ABP guy says this works fine with EasyList and Liste FR. Can you confirm?

I get an ad here every time, with all filter lists up to date (including with ABP): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3l8zle_bang-gang-une-histoire-d-amour-moderne-d-eva-husson-un-film-france-info_shortfilms.

[ghost]

Thanks for the ABP Forum link, I'm on my way to have a look there.
EDIT : I visited that forum already. Obviously those mentioning vision without any ads haven't understood the trash is random. No, the fact is Dailymotion has a particularly sophisticated algorithm, period.

About your dailymotion video, gorhill: I've just viewed it without any ad. That's what I was saying, it's totally random. I've viewed this afternoon 10-12 videos with no ads, then suddenly one with an in-video ad....
Anyway, not a drama. Fortunately there is an 'add-escape button top-right. Without that ad-exit I would not bear whatever ad for the sake of whatever video. Drives me insane (almost!).

Thanks.

[gorhill]

When you get a video with an ad, can you tell me if you see this script in the logger:

static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js

If so, blocking this script prevents the ad from appearing on my side -- though this causes a delay before the real video starts playing, but I could remediate this on my side.

[ghost]

I've just tested and was lucky (relativity!) to get an in-video ad!!!

uBO Logger -> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3lp2li_la-france-battue-en-finale-du-tqo_sport
Back to Logger which indeed displayed:
http://static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js

Grrr, could that be related to the crime?!

Thanks, gorhill, for your investigations.

EDIT : I haven't tested blocking it (read too quickly) - I'll be back.

[ghost]

Now that I want an ad video I cannot get any!!! Totally random. Just ran 15 videos (few seconds each), and no ad! Even if I block the script I'll won't know (how would I know before either an ad or 48 hrs without?).

Can I ask you, gorhill, how to write the rule for blocking static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js since I can not blovk it from the Logger- Thanks

[gorhill]

Try

||static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js$script

[ghost]

OK, gorhill, that's what I did before your answer (I ignore what I know!)
So:
I installed the rule ||static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js$script
I ran again http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3lp2li_la-france-battue-en-finale-du-tqo_sport
Video took some time to arrive, as in your experiment.(I guess this means there was an ad, but maybe does this script, once blocked, delay the video even if no ad?)
Ran the Logger and indeed the script appeared as blocked.

Now, even if this script is the culprit, I'm wondering if the name is not random as well
When I see scripts such as 1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js I tend to believe the 1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74 part is random ...

[gorhill]

I'm wondering if the name is not random as well

That's why I am investigating more before making a filter out of this.

[ghost]

I ran several videos from Dailymotion with the blocking rule for the mentioned script, and all videos 1- had no ad, 2- were delayed.
Either the delay performed on all videos (with & without ad) either the ad was repeated when the algorithm noted the ad had not been issued, which would mean at least 2 or 3 Dailymotion ad processes:
1- Random
2- Maybe on certain videos and not on all (though I've experienced a same video with and without)
3- Maybe a policy regarding the IP-identified user, his behavior regarding the ad and so on ...

No idea, but terrifically tough to find a guiding line in what seems to be a multi-factor well organized ad-distribution system.

EDIT : I returned to the site I mentioned far above (http://www.franceinfo.fr/) with embedded Dailymotion videos (within audio and within video) and noticed no ad AND delay ... for what it's worth.

I'm starting to believe this static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js is heavily concerned, in other words we're getting closer (especially you, gorhill!)

Mama mia, what a night :)

[gorhill]

I created a filter which appears to work -- it does not rely on the filename. See if this works fine on your side.

[ghost]

I'm not at all aware of the way github is organized, of its methodology, so I landed on this rule which I believe is the correct one, and added it to my filters:
dailymotion.com##script:inject(1136#issuecomment-170371863.js)
and of course removed previous ||static1.dmcdn.net/playerv5/1f2ad7e2d3ce1a215d74.dmp.js$script

I tested the rule with several embedded as well as home Dailymotion videos and have had NO in-video ads make their way. I hope I installed the correct rule, otherwise it would be luck!

I think I did install the right rule because I notice a perhaps 1-2 second delay before the video start.
May sound funny but for users such as myself code is a universe and github a labyrinth so please pardon my wandering.

Of course I hope the medicine will appear more as surgery than as plain pills.
I admire and your commitment and your talent, gorhill, and flattery is not in my habits.

Can I ask you one last (presumably) thing? How does this rule function. Does it call a script here at github to afterwards inject it in the page? You know, besides what I manage to do with uBO because it has been elaborated to be easily handled by the users even non-techie, I understand 0+ of 99+ reality behind the scene!

Thanks A MILLION, gorhill. Should I encounter an issue in this counter-strike that I'd pass the word here, of course. But seeing what you've achieved I'm more than reasonably confident.

What a nice feeling, that of being no longer force-fed!

[gorhill]

For the rule to work, you need an up to date version of resources.txt (it will be pulled automatically if at least one filter list is updated), the rule causes a scriptlet to be loaded on the page which defuses the video player layer dedicated to play ads.

[ghost]

I noticed on my uBO '3rd-party filters' that an update for 'uBlock filters' was available, so I've updated.
Now I see that indeed the rule dailymotion.com##script:inject(1136#issuecomment-170371863.js) appears in the uBlock filters list.
Hence, removing this rule from 'My filters'.

I'm learning, thanks for teaching! What I lack as well is the terminology, not only the procedures.

[ghost]

Another site with Dailymotion embedded videos showing in-video ads:
http://www.20minutes.fr/tv/t-as-vu/214905-un-bebe-phoque-nait-au-zoo-de-brookfield-et-emeut-les-internautes

I hate to have to be the one bringing this information... gosh, what a pain.

[gorhill]

Another site with Dailymotion embedded videos showing in-video ads.

I can't see ads on this site. Using a French server through VPN, still no ads for whatever video I tried. What are your other settings?

edit: I can confirm the site use the same exact technique as franceinfo.fr, so it should just work fine -- so long as the HTML5 player is used for the site.

[ghost]

In-video ads are back on Dailymotion despite uBlock dedicated filters:
||dailymotion.com/ac/video/$image,first-party,redirect=2x2-transparent.png
dailymotion.com##script:inject(1136.js)

On the site itself and of course on Dailymotion embedded videos.
This is driving users nuts because the ad appears on every video even if, as before, blockable after 5 seconds. But 5 seconds for each video drives you crazy. I'm bound to blacklist DailyMotion, just can't stand it anymore.

Thanks again for uBlockO whatever the issue with this damned Dailymotion site. Insane ad policy.

[gorhill]

On the site itself and of course on Dailymotion embedded videos

I've tried many videos, and haven't been able to see an ad so far. Do you have a URL from where you consistently get an ad?

[ghost]

Hi gorhill,

I've just tested now, first available video on Dailymotion.com/fr and another, embedded:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3x3v63_orlm-221-2p-design-et-finition-gs7-aussi-bien-que-l-iphone_tech

http://videos.leparisien.fr/video/chelsea-psg-paris-sauve-le-foot-francais-10-03-2016-x3wupw5

Both include the in-video ad as mentioned.

It seems here to be no longer random as I get them systematically, anyway since last night when I went to have a look at Dailymotion to compare with my surprise to see again the ad on a dailymotion embedded video (leparisien.fr).

I do hope this is not again the vicious random ad display issue because then attempting to find the solution would be double trouble.

Thanks again for your concern. I seldom visit dailymotion.com, the most bothering are embedded videos as several French sites use dailymotion for their video delivery ...

[gorhill]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3x3v63_orlm-221-2p-design-et-finition-gs7-aussi-bien-que-l-iphone_tech

Thanks, I got an ad with this one.

[ghost]

Not with the embedded one on leparisien.fr if I understand correctly. Odd, again & again.

[gorhill]

I found clearing the cookies for Daily Motion I systematically get the ad for the URL you provided -- not necessarily the case if I do not clear the cookies.

[ghost]

OK- I use a Firefox add-on called 'Self-Destructing Cookies' which removes a site's cookies once the site closed unless this site is set as an exception for keep. But the cookie is not touched as long as the user is on the site, in which case the cookie is handled following the user's default policy for cookies.

My cookie default policy is for session only (hence, all cookies for session only unless exception rule to keep or block).

Now, Dailymotion here has no exception rule, hence its cookie is session-only -> Surprise: if I set an exception rule (keep) for dailymotion.com then ... the in-video ad doesn't reappear as you've experienced, same if I quit dailymotion since the cookie is 1- not removed, 2- is not a session cookie.

Seems dailymotion wants not only a session cookie but a "long-term" cookie ...

Looks, looked ok... until -- in this scheme -- I tested another video on dailymotion and had -- again -- an in-line ad:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3x3qxy_marie-gillain-agacee-au-grand-journal-quand-maitena-biraben-lui-montre-sa-une-du-magazine-lui_tv

Now get to understand the morbid, cynical algorithm they have and i'll eat my hat (or beret).

mama mia ...

[gorhill]

Could try the following filter by pasting it in your My filters pane in the dashboard?

||liverail.com/js/liverail.admanager$script,important,domain=dailymotion.com

Tell me if this helps.

[ghost]

Just added the new filter, unsuccessful (old cookie scheme here, that is session cookie).

Forgot to mention : liverail.com is system-wide blocked here in my HOSTS file ...

EDIT, liverail.com blocked here with PeerBlock as well -> I've disabled HOSTS file via HostsManager application AND Peerblock for testing with new filter: still unsuccessful => liverail being blocked system-wide is not concerned0

[gorhill]

Remove the filter I asked to test above, then update filter lists -- see if this fixes the issue.

[ghost]

gorhill: you are a genius! For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow!

Fantastic. I removed first testing new filter, updated filter lists, checked a video on dailymotion.com then an embedded one on leparisien.fr and ... NO IN-VIDEO ADS! (I'm not yelling, I'm happy!).

Many many thanks, gorhill. I don't know how you do it, and do it so fast, but you sure do it :)

Nice, nice, nice, thanks again!

[ffreed]

Just to thank you for your job.
The new dailymotion filter works perfectly.

[brunob]

Hi, and first a huge thank for your work on this addon :) I got problem to read another dailymotion video here :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wwy33_loi-travail-alain-deneault-explique-pourquoi-notre-societe-est-devenue-folle_news

I've purged and updated all my active lists and here is what i got in my dynamic filter tab (my personnal filters are empty) :

* disqus.com * block
* facebook.com * block
* facebook.net * block
* googletagservices.com * block
* taboola.com * block
* twitter.com * block
behind-the-scene * 3p noop
behind-the-scene * 3p-frame noop
facebook.com facebook.com * noop
facebook.com facebook.net * noop
twitter.com twitter.com * noop

I can provide an export of my config if necessary.

[gorhill]

Purge one of uBO's filter list then force an update. See if this works.

[ghost]

Latest uBlockO filters (uBlock filters in 3-rd party filters) fixes once again the continuously changing Dailymotion in-video ads' code.
Thanks again, gorhill.

[brunob]

\o/ @gorhill thx a lot it works :)

[umairkhalil]

I am experiencing this same issue with the video ad at the start of the video on dailymotion. I am running v1.6.8 and happens both on chrome and firefox. I updated the lists but no effect. I am thinking that dailymotion found a way around your filter.

[gorhill]

URL?

[ghost]

A fast one : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47xvjt_actube-du-30-04-le-tube-du-30-04_tv

[ghost]

URL?
A fast one : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47xvjt_actube-du-30-04-le-tube-du-30-04_tv

It's not always triggered, but I had the the Firefox debugger running and found it loads for example this advertising video before it plays the actual video:

http://vid2.ec.dmcdn.net/sec%28f440e69f9435fe5d7eab6f2b1a4b1d06%29/frag%2877%29/775/319/2838903577_mp4_h264_aac_uhd.ts

[gorhill]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47xvjt_actube-du-30-04-le-tube-du-30-04_tv

I am able to reproduce, using a VPN to FR. Will investigate.

[gorhill]

It's not always triggered

Clearing cookies for the site before forcing a page reload made the ad appears reliably on my side.