Render syndication links on feed pages, or support ETags/If-Modified-Since

[snarfed]

we've been working on optimizing bridgy to cut costs recently (snarfed/bridgy#578 , snarfed/bridgy#624), and one of its big sources of load currently is refetching home pages and permalinks to check for new/updated syndication links.

Known and WordPress are the two biggest CMSes bridgy sees by far. if you all were able to render synd links inside entries in feeds, that would let us skip fetching the permalinks, which would be a huge help.

alternatively, if you supported ETags/If-Modified-Since, we could use them to make them permalink fetches and processing much lighter. a bit more work for us, and not quite as big a win, but still something.

cc @kylewm. thanks in advance! hope you all are good. oh, and feel free to split this into two issues if you want, obviously.

[benwerd]

Seems totally reasonable. Are you scanning the mf2 or the RSS feeds?

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we've been working on optimizing bridgy to cut costs recently (
snarfed/bridgy#578 snarfed/bridgy#578 ,
snarfed/bridgy#624 snarfed/bridgy#624), and
one of its big sources of load currently is refetching home pages and
permalinks to check for new/updated syndication links.

Known and WordPress are the two biggest CMSes bridgy sees by far. if you
all were able to render synd links inside entries in feeds, that would let
us skip fetching the permalinks, which would be a huge help.

alternatively, if you supported ETags/If-Modified-Since, we could use them
to make them permalink fetches and processing much lighter. a bit more work
for us, and not quite as big a win, but still something.

cc @kylewm https://github.com/kylewm. thanks in advance! hope you all
are good. oh, and feel free to split this into two issues if you want,
obviously.

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[snarfed]

thanks! mf2, from the rendered pages, usually starting from the home page.

[benwerd]

OK. So would mf2 syndication links in a sub div for each entry hidden with
display:none be acceptable?

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thanks! mf2, from the rendered pages, usually starting from the home page.

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[snarfed]

that'd be perfect!

[benwerd]

Actually disregard last - it's probably outside the div you need it to be inside.

[benwerd]

... Or on reflection, is it? Let me know.

[snarfed]

looks like it works perfectly: http://mf2.kylewm.com/?url=http://werd.io/

thanks again!

[benwerd]

Hooray! Okay, closing this out. We need to update the hosted service soon, so this will make its way to most Known sites before too long. There will also be a release at the beginning of March.

[kylewm]

This is a win for woodwind too fwiw :)

[kylewm]

Hey that was almost a palindrome

[kylewm]

or maybe not quite a win... since rel=syndication is page-scoped, it's bad to have it in the feed. or we could talk about making mf2py scope rel=syndication to the block like it does for rel=bookmark

[benwerd]

Eek. What do you think the better markup would be?

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or maybe not quite a win... since rel=syndication is page-scoped, it's
bad to have it in the feed.

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[kylewm]

Just like it is now but without rel="syndication"... (btw, this is always a hassle, I had it with Red Wind, and with adactio.com. Maybe a reason to change the spec)

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