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Toilet Independence #45
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I am keen to watch this but do not have the 1.5 hours to do this right now so keen to see any notes that anyone else has already started making - please publish as you go rather than waiting for all the notes to be written! |
@iteles totally agree that we should have a better way of capturing notes collaboratively. 💭 @Stephanymtr know you are super busy with the final days/deadlines of your ÁMI course. ⏳ |
Toilet IndependenceToilet training is a modern society phenomenon which is being reinforced and supported by the commercial companies and makers of disposable nappies. Montessori approach to the potty independence is about understanding of the bodily functions and recognition of the sensations and the signals the body gives when to use the toilet. Understanding of all these aspects is key to the success of developing independence of toilet use. Myelinisation: process that starts from head to toe that allows children to control their movement. It takes about a year. By the time the child is 6 months old, sitting up, the process of Myelinisation has reached this phantom and the child has the ability to exercise control in this area. It’s conceivable to believe the child has the ability to take full control by the time he is walking. Child needs voluntary movement control in order to really be fully independent Historically, most children were toilet trained around the age of walking because they have the ability to control the bladder and also control their bowel movements. Road to Success: Child needs to feel wet in order to understand the processes of his body. He needs to develop understanding of the signals the body gives before he urinates or has a bowel movement. He needs to be able to feel that fullness/signal to let go of the bladder/bowel movement. Disposable nappies never allow a child this feeling of wetness. It gives misleading info to the child about these voluntary functions. The problem is that disposable nappies absorb all the moisture so quickly that the child doesn't feel wet. Therefore, they are not aware of what happens when they release the urine into the nappy. In order to avoid misleading children, the use of cotton nappies/cotton pants is suggested. It allows the child to receive the correct information about his bodily functions. The child who feels wet and dry, learns through experience that the preferred condition is to be dry. Additionally, the child starts to instinctively react to that feeling of wetness exercising this fathom by holding on his urine. Ultimately, the child starts to exercise his ability to hold for longer periods. Prepare Environment for Toilet IndependencePreparation of the environment differs for a child under one who is unable to walk to a child over one that’s able to walk. Under one:
Above one
Generally, in the first year, children pee little and often. Those training pants with padded middle will often hold one full bladder. However, at this age, as parents go to check them, they see that child is dry because they start holding their urine for longer period. They start to develop this ability to really exercise this phantom and really hold the bladder for longer period of time. Additionally, when the child wets themselves, you might notice the puddle start to get bigger. DON'T PANIC! This shows you the child is demonstrating some development: child is holding for a longer period of time. If you are consistent with the area of where the potty is located, you will notice that the big puddles are getting closer and closer to the potty. This happens because the child doesn't allow a long enough ETA to the potty. They don't allow themselves enough time to get to the toilet. It takes them some time to realize they need to go straight away when they get that sensation. In addition, sometimes the child is busy with an activity, so they hold it, and we adults can even see that when child is doing the “need-to-pee” dance. BE COOL ABOUT IT 😎 It’s generally a good practice to offer the child use of the toilet in practical moments so that you can start to establish predictable routines. We can offer child a chance to use toilet before sitting down to eat, before leaving the house, before going to bed, before having a bath, after waking up in the am... |
@Stephanymtr thanks very much for sharing your notes on the video. 👌 |
I would caution that this is not a 'single source of truth' issue and we should research further Montessori sources rather than publishing a blog post based on this one source because there are many adverse effects to toilet training being rushed, forced or generally pushed on a child by eager parents. It is a polarizing topic. SUPER happy that we have these notes though, thank you @Stephanymtr, really helpful! A word on diapers: a LOT of modern day cloth diapers have a stay dry layer already incorporated into them, especially pocket diapers which are one of the most popular types of diaper. When I was buying diapers for This means we don't have enough diapers to allow @Stephanymtr Over to you for proposed next steps 😊 |
Appropriate locationThe area of toilet independence should be prepared long before your child is particularly aware of the potty. At first, the potty is in the changing area to make it easy to offer the child to sit in the potty before changing them into a new nappy. Potty can be something simple but it’s not a toy, it’s not meant to be played with. At some point, you might want to remove the potty from the changing area to a more appropriate location like the toilet and more importantly, where the child can use it independently. We want the place to be very clear for the child. Don't move potty often to multiple places because the child has a strong sense of order; they are trying to understand their routine and order of their environment. The preparation of the environment is really important. Physical environment :Potty chairs characteristics:->It should fit child’s body A low bench/chair-> it is optional but very useful if space allows. Hamper-> a location for child to place his dirty underwear in Floor covering-> Something like a shower mat is also optional but useful as this will make it easy for child to clean his urine/poop Mop and Cleaning supplies->Heidi talked about this multiple times. It’s very important to allow the child to clean up after himself. Extra Info->it should not be confused as a play area so do NOT have any sort of toys nearby. Flyer my professor made on this topic to give to parents I'm going to finish posting all my notes and then get to your question @nelsonic |
Clothing is very important aspect of toilet independence->it has to be practical, Human/psychological environment
Certain things can have an effect on child’s psychological use:
Any sort of stressful situation such as positive or negative situation can affect this area
Avoid:-> Inappropriate language: “stinky” “ you don’t smell nice” Adult has to instill this feeling of trust and respect in the child Let child: Adults must aid independence by finding ways to make the child feel confident and safe |
@nelsonic @iteles Considering all the information my professor shared, there are MANY things we could start doing. I believe changing A on the floor next to his potty would be a good idea. Place a chair there, so that he can sit down and start practicing taking his clothes off independently as well. He’d be able to go on the potty on his own (if he wants to) and get dressed afterwards. This will also allow A to be more involved in all the routines around toilet use - Ask A to place his dirty clothes in a hamper, choose between a pair of dry underwear/diapers (any clothing item), help empty out the potty, wash hands and so on. I'd encourage finish setting up his toilet area. He currently has a potty and some books in the nursery. You should decide if the nursery is where you want to keep it officially. Once that's decided, we should add: mat for unearth the area, chair, establish the area he will place dirty diapers/underwear and the area he will get clean diapers/underwear, area for toilet paper/wet wipes, mop and cloth for cleaning up urine/poop, etc.... everything at his level. Some easy to implement day-to-day practices that I talked about in my notes above: |
@Stephanymtr thanks again for writing up your notes on this topic. Really don't like the plastic potty or inserts, but they have been working "OK-ish" these last few months ... a. establish a routine that he can use anywhere he goes e.g. grandparents and other relatives houses With these things in mind, I think we should open a sub-task (new issue) to measure our toilets here |
Alright, let me try to break those tasks downs into questions: what do you mean exactly by establishing a routine ? I understand you are talking about having a new sequence of actions that we ALL need to follow regularly for this toilet independence phase to go well: |
@Stephanymtr body suits and dungarees are out. They are not compatible with toilet independence at this stage. This is what I had in mind: Routine 🕖This is my suggestion for a Toilet Training/Independence Routine. 💭 Wake Up 🙌In the morning when
If he doesn't [want to] do a pee and instead just wants to get dressed straight away, that is fine. 👍 Morning in the house 🏡
"Never help a child with a task at which he feels he can succeed."
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I have so many thoughts and questions on this 😅 Mostly my thoughts are on building up to this and timings rather than the process itself. We cannot start this (i.e. particularly the wearing of briefs instead of diapers) 'just out of the blue' (which I understand is not what you're suggesting, but I just want to make it clear for anyone reading this issue). I firmly think we need to build him up to briefs otherwise the whole experience will just be traumatic. I'm super for putting A on the toilet rather than a plastic potty (his room is not a bathroom) but we definitely need to have the dwyl/workshop#81 so that he feels completely stable and safe on it. If he has to hold himself up, it totally defeats the purpose and distracts from what we're trying to teach him. As I say, I have lots of other thoughts. Need to block out a period of an hour to write this up and will do this asap ❤️ |
I haven't had a chance to think clearly about this yet in such a way that I can commit my thoughts to github in a sensical fashion. Here is my biggest thought: One week of wetness before briefsThis is just a suggestion but really is what feels right to me. I'll try to explain. I would ideally like to see a "pre-step" of sorts to the routine above where we have a week where we move exclusively to diapers that allow A to feel he is wet. We closely observe, learn his cues, equip him with the vocabulary to express he is wet and where possible we can begin to pre-empt at least 💩 and take him to the toilet. I feel we are setting him up to fail if we just 'go for it' without any effort on our part (consistently, across all of us that is, I know you do all of this already @nelsonic because this has been a focus for you) to equip him with the foundation level tools (vocabulary, understanding the feeling and that we want him to pay attention to it rather than just keep playing) to not have to go through wetting himself multiple times a day in order to learn. After a week we assess to make sure we feel he's cottoned on (which I'm 90% sure he will). PracticalitiesThe practicalities of the diaper situation (allowing A to feel wetness) are not as straightforward as you would imagine, as stated in my comment above. But there is a simple solution: I have gathered a number of bamboo inserts which we can use to lay ontop of the fleece protective layer in the majority of the pocket diapers which will allow A to feel wetness. If they start to chafe, I'll have to use the tumble dryer to soften them up, no worries. Use of languageI would also like to investigate our use of language a bit more. Setting up the toilet areaI think it will be critical to his success if we have a toilet area set up and ready to go for him when we move him to briefs both upstairs and downstairs, with the reducer and the Toddler Training Throne so he has the exact same facilities/routine from day one. It think it would also be super beneficial if we could move his current morning routine (which already includes doing his morning 💦 in the potty) onto the new toilet environment for a few days before going full days on the new toilet environment so he gets used to it. |
I will speak to Margarida about this tomorrow and we'll get it sorted in terms of diapers. |
Hi @iteles Regarding the ""pre-step" of sorts to A's routine" you suggested above, do you think we have made enough progress to move on to the next phase? N and I talked this morning and here a few of the things we would need/could do next: -> We would need around 7-10 cuecas We discussed a complete plan above, so these are just a few suggestions to get started. Preparing the Environment (bathroom)-> Toilet: decide what kind of toilet setup you want to use and place it in all the bathrooms . |
@Stephanymtr thanks for capturing what we discussed in our morning catch-up. 👌
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I am MUCH more comfortable with A moving into full potty training mode now. Thanks to Nelson tirelessly taking him to the potty every single morning, he now fully understands the difference between a 💩 and a 💦 (he still often said 'cócó' for a diaper that only had xixi back in October), is much more aware of his bodily functions as he's started to pick up on when he needs to pee as well as 💩, is no longer hesitant about being on the potty and shows a lot of interest in both going to the toilet and when others do. He's officially very ready for us to help him along. Next week looks like it's going to rain so it's the PERFECT time for us to start this as he'll be near a toilet at home and will spend less time outside or at least shorter bursts of time outside. On the specific things you have mentioned above @nelsonic and @Stephanymtr:
Questions to come. |
I turned my (super long) toilet independence notes into a blog post. It's a lot more clear this way, so I thought I'd share it here. https://bragamontessori.com/2023/10/31/montessori-toilet-training-practical-guide-fostering-independence-through-understanding/ |
Awesome work! 🎉 Thanks @Stephanymtr ❤️ |
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