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Tracking issue: mplex deprecation #553

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marten-seemann opened this issue Jun 15, 2023 · 12 comments
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Tracking issue: mplex deprecation #553

marten-seemann opened this issue Jun 15, 2023 · 12 comments

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@marten-seemann
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marten-seemann commented Jun 15, 2023

Things left to do:

@achingbrain Anything left to do on the JS side?
@mxinden @thomaseizinger Anything left to do on the Rust side? Feel free to add to above list.

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Menduist commented Jun 15, 2023

Eth consensus still specifies mplex as a "must have" multiplexer: https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/9e50c74a372c0d8349764ef411b22cfa71f2a656/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md?plain=1#L164

And some eth2 clients still don't have a prod-ready yamux (nimbus doesn't, last time I talked to lodestar they didn't, and I think teku doesn't)

edit: apparently jvm-libp2p barely supports yamux

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And some eth2 clients still don't have a prod-ready yamux (nimbus doesn't, last time I talked to lodestar they didn't, and I think teku doesn't)

Lodestar latest stable supports mplex only but we have a complete implementation of yamux in heavy testing for the last 1-2 months. Hopefully we can rollut soonish

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Anything left to do on the JS side?

  • Add a deprecation notice to the mplex readme
  • Deprecate the mplex module on npm

People can still configure js-libp2p with mplex and continue to use it if they wish, they'll just get a warning when they do an npm install.

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Eth consensus still specifies mplex as a "must have" multiplexer: https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/9e50c74a372c0d8349764ef411b22cfa71f2a656/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md?plain=1#L164

Thank you @Menduist, I wasn't aware. What would be the process to get that spec changed?

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The first step would be for every client to have yamux enabled by default (which requires stable support in their underlying libp2ps, and proper testing)

Once that is done & we are confident in all yamuxes, we can update the specs to remove mandatory support

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@mxinden @thomaseizinger Anything left to do on the Rust side?

Nope. It is already "annoying" to use because you need to add a separate dependency.

A next step could be to remove it from the mono-repo and add it to a community maintained one for people that still want to use it.

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Kubo removed mplex support: ipfs/kubo#9958.

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BigLep commented Aug 22, 2023

Per ipfs/kubo#10069, Kubo is actually going to disable mplex by default for the next Kubo release and then followup with removing mplex in the next release.

I know the woes of mplex have been decried many times before. Is there a canonical place that we point to for explaining why not to use mplex. I think it would be good to link to that from this issue (and others like ipfs/kubo#10069)

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p-shahi commented Aug 23, 2023

Per ipfs/kubo#10069, Kubo is actually going to disable mplex by default for the next Kubo release and then followup with removing mplex in the next release.

I know the woes of mplex have been decried many times before. Is there a canonical place that we point to for explaining why not to use mplex. I think it would be good to link to that from this issue (and others like ipfs/kubo#10069)

When libp2p/blog#106 is done we can point users to this blog post. Afaik there's no other place other than https://docs.libp2p.io/concepts/multiplex/mplex/#drawbacks atm

bors bot pushed a commit to sigp/lighthouse that referenced this issue Aug 24, 2023
## Issue Addressed

N/A

## Proposed Changes

In #4431 , we seem to have removed support for mplex as it is being deprecated in libp2p. See libp2p/specs#553 . Related rust-libp2p PR libp2p/rust-libp2p#3920
However, since this isn't part of the official [consensus specs](https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/dev/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md#multiplexing), we still need to support mplex. 

> Clients MUST support [mplex](https://github.com/libp2p/specs/tree/master/mplex) and MAY support [yamux](https://github.com/hashicorp/yamux/blob/master/spec.md).

This PR adds back mplex support as before.
bors bot pushed a commit to sigp/lighthouse that referenced this issue Aug 24, 2023
## Issue Addressed

N/A

## Proposed Changes

In #4431 , we seem to have removed support for mplex as it is being deprecated in libp2p. See libp2p/specs#553 . Related rust-libp2p PR libp2p/rust-libp2p#3920
However, since this isn't part of the official [consensus specs](https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/dev/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md#multiplexing), we still need to support mplex. 

> Clients MUST support [mplex](https://github.com/libp2p/specs/tree/master/mplex) and MAY support [yamux](https://github.com/hashicorp/yamux/blob/master/spec.md).

This PR adds back mplex support as before.
bors bot pushed a commit to sigp/lighthouse that referenced this issue Aug 24, 2023
## Issue Addressed

N/A

## Proposed Changes

In #4431 , we seem to have removed support for mplex as it is being deprecated in libp2p. See libp2p/specs#553 . Related rust-libp2p PR libp2p/rust-libp2p#3920
However, since this isn't part of the official [consensus specs](https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/dev/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md#multiplexing), we still need to support mplex. 

> Clients MUST support [mplex](https://github.com/libp2p/specs/tree/master/mplex) and MAY support [yamux](https://github.com/hashicorp/yamux/blob/master/spec.md).

This PR adds back mplex support as before.
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Afaik there's no other place other than docs.libp2p.io/concepts/multiplex/mplex/#drawbacks atm

I guess an even better phrasing for this would be: "If you need a dedicated muxer, yamux should be used. Overall, QUIC should be preferred over TCP"?

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mxinden commented Aug 24, 2023

Is there a canonical place that we point to for explaining why not to use mplex.

Afaik there's no other place other than https://docs.libp2p.io/concepts/multiplex/mplex/#drawbacks atm

Other past discussion: #402

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p-shahi commented Aug 24, 2023

Afaik there's no other place other than docs.libp2p.io/concepts/multiplex/mplex/#drawbacks atm

I guess an even better phrasing for this would be: "If you need a dedicated muxer, yamux should be used. Overall, QUIC should be preferred over TCP"?

good point @thomaseizinger pushing change now

Woodpile37 pushed a commit to Woodpile37/lighthouse that referenced this issue Jan 6, 2024
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In sigp#4431 , we seem to have removed support for mplex as it is being deprecated in libp2p. See libp2p/specs#553 . Related rust-libp2p PR libp2p/rust-libp2p#3920
However, since this isn't part of the official [consensus specs](https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/dev/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md#multiplexing), we still need to support mplex.

> Clients MUST support [mplex](https://github.com/libp2p/specs/tree/master/mplex) and MAY support [yamux](https://github.com/hashicorp/yamux/blob/master/spec.md).

This PR adds back mplex support as before.
Woodpile37 pushed a commit to Woodpile37/lighthouse that referenced this issue Jan 6, 2024
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In sigp#4431 , we seem to have removed support for mplex as it is being deprecated in libp2p. See libp2p/specs#553 . Related rust-libp2p PR libp2p/rust-libp2p#3920
However, since this isn't part of the official [consensus specs](https://github.com/ethereum/consensus-specs/blob/dev/specs/phase0/p2p-interface.md#multiplexing), we still need to support mplex.

> Clients MUST support [mplex](https://github.com/libp2p/specs/tree/master/mplex) and MAY support [yamux](https://github.com/hashicorp/yamux/blob/master/spec.md).

This PR adds back mplex support as before.
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