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Signed-off-by: Jonathan de Jong <jonathan@automatia.nl>

@ShadowJonathan ShadowJonathan changed the title [WIP] MSCXXXX: Flip The Table for Full Room Abstraction [WIP] MSC2802: Flip The Table for Full Room Abstraction Oct 5, 2020
@turt2live turt2live added kind:feature MSC for not-core and not-maintenance stuff proposal A matrix spec change proposal labels Oct 5, 2020
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ShadowJonathan commented Oct 5, 2020

I created a room specifically discussing this MSC, #spec-table-flipper:jboi.nl, by @turt2live's request

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ShadowJonathan commented Oct 8, 2020

#1840 and #2773 might be related to this.

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@turt2live turt2live added the needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. label Jun 8, 2021
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I would have to re-read this in detail. Generally, I like this MSC. I just object to PSS not being in a room.

Going forward, I can see "everything-as-a-room", with Matrix servers providing base room functionality, and implementing IM-specific functionality with appservices. Not sure if someone else agrees with that vision?

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The Personal Server State refers to a `(target, type)` Key-Value data structure persisted on the
server, personal to the user, which can be manipulated by the corresponding user at any time. This
"state" has analogies with "room state" in the way that room state is also a Key-Value mapping.
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Wouldn't that PSS be a better fit for a private room?
Think "profiles-as-rooms", but with a public as well as a private room.

Private rooms could still federate (portable identities). They could contain that kind of mappings as room events. Other stuff such as key backup, etc could be part of the room state.

@richvdh richvdh changed the title [WIP] MSC2802: Flip The Table for Full Room Abstraction [WIP] MSC2802: Full Room Abstraction Aug 2, 2021
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