MSC4040: Update SRV service name to IANA registration #4040

turt2live · 2023-08-04T19:29:13Z

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turt2live · 2023-08-04T19:30:44Z

This MSC has no real need to linger.

@mscbot fcp merge

mscbot · 2023-08-04T19:30:46Z

Team member @mscbot has proposed to merge this. The next step is review by the rest of the tagged people:

Concerns:

~~lacks an implementation~~

Once at least 75% of reviewers approve (and there are no outstanding concerns), this will enter its final comment period. If you spot a major issue that hasn't been raised at any point in this process, please speak up!

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6543 · 2023-08-04T20:04:43Z

just as fun-fact note: its always 4 4040, 400, ... D:

proposals/4040-update-srv-service-name.md

uhoreg

Seems fairly sensible, but the "Security considerations" sections looks like it has been truncated.

proposals/4040-update-srv-service-name.md

uhoreg · 2023-08-09T01:43:10Z

Also, why is this marked as "No implementation is required"? Shouldn't some server implement the new steps?

turt2live · 2023-08-09T14:18:51Z

There's no unstable implementation required because there's no ability to prefix this. We don't require implementation on trivial MSCs either.

Implementation is obviously required when it enters the spec.

Edit: have clarified the PR description

Co-authored-by: Hubert Chathi <hubertc@matrix.org>

proposals/4040-update-srv-service-name.md

richvdh · 2023-08-10T11:23:06Z

proposals/4040-update-srv-service-name.md

+A potential way forward is to remove SRV resolution entirely, however prior effort via
+[MSC3922](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/3922) are expected to be *rejected* instead
+(as of writing, August 4th, 2023).


I am somewhat 👎 on this (MSC4040) and would still prefer that we drop SRV support.

I continue to feel that the current SRV support serves almost entirely to confuse people; a significant portion of the traffic in #synapse:matrix.org continues to be people trying and failing to set up federation because they are using SRV records with the wrong certificates.

Erik raises good points at #3922 (comment) but the fact remains that correctly configuring a deployment using SRV records instead of .well-known is so damn hard that virtually nobody does it. Even matrix.org uses a .well-known file, and if anyone could benefit from avoiding the .well-known, it's matrix.org.

Adding even more complexity to it seems like, frankly, a retrograde step. If we deprecated SRV records now and then in future it turns out that we can't live without them, then re-introducing them based on _matrix-fed._tcp isn't going to be any harder than it is now.

(also: it's not entirely obvious to me that SRV records are the future: SVCB records look like they might replace them for our purposes).

Still, if everyone else is in favour, I'll not stand in the way.

-0.5 from me on the Apache Voting Scale

richvdh · 2023-08-10T11:23:35Z

@mscbot concern lacks an implementation

richvdh · 2023-08-11T09:08:49Z

@mscbot resolve lacks an implementation

turt2live · 2023-08-14T16:04:09Z

The FCP for this MSC recently has had enough checkboxes, but the bot didn't start FCP due to a bug.

🔔 This MSC is now entering FCP, as of the timestamp of this comment. 🔔

turt2live · 2023-08-19T21:40:21Z

This MSC has completed FCP per the above comment.

turt2live · 2023-08-19T21:57:18Z

Spec PR: matrix-org/matrix-spec#1624

turt2live · 2023-08-22T15:51:10Z

Merged 🎉

@jcgruenhage

No significant changes since 1.93.0rc1. The following issues are fixed in 1.93.0 (and RCs). - [GHSA-4f74-84v3-j9q5](GHSA-4f74-84v3-j9q5) / [CVE-2023-41335](https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-41335) — Low Severity Temporary storage of plaintext passwords during password changes. - [GHSA-7565-cq32-vx2x](GHSA-7565-cq32-vx2x) / [CVE-2023-42453](https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-42453) — Low Severity Improper validation of receipts allows forged read receipts. See the advisories for more details. If you have any questions, email security@matrix.org. - Add automatic purge after all users have forgotten a room. ([\matrix-org#15488](matrix-org#15488)) - Restore room purge/shutdown after a Synapse restart. ([\matrix-org#15488](matrix-org#15488)) - Support resolving homeservers using `matrix-fed` DNS SRV records from [MSC4040](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4040). ([\matrix-org#16137](matrix-org#16137)) - Add the ability to use `G` (GiB) and `T` (TiB) suffixes in configuration options that refer to numbers of bytes. ([\matrix-org#16219](matrix-org#16219)) - Add span information to requests sent to appservices. Contributed by MTRNord. ([\matrix-org#16227](matrix-org#16227)) - Add the ability to enable/disable registrations when using CAS. Contributed by Aurélien Grimpard. ([\matrix-org#16262](matrix-org#16262)) - Allow the `/notifications` endpoint to be routed to workers. ([\matrix-org#16265](matrix-org#16265)) - Enable users to easily unsubscribe to notifications emails via the `List-Unsubscribe` header. ([\matrix-org#16274](matrix-org#16274)) - Report whether a user is `locked` in the [List Accounts admin API](https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/latest/admin_api/user_admin_api.html#list-accounts), and exclude locked users by default. ([\matrix-org#16328](matrix-org#16328)) - Fix a long-standing bug where multi-device accounts could cause high load due to presence. ([\matrix-org#16066](matrix-org#16066), [\matrix-org#16170](matrix-org#16170), [\matrix-org#16171](matrix-org#16171), [\matrix-org#16172](matrix-org#16172), [\matrix-org#16174](matrix-org#16174)) - Fix a long-standing bug where appservices using [MSC2409](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#2409) to receive `to_device` messages would only get messages for one user. ([\matrix-org#16251](matrix-org#16251)) - Fix bug when using workers where Synapse could end up re-requesting the same remote device repeatedly. ([\matrix-org#16252](matrix-org#16252)) - Fix long-standing bug where we kept re-requesting a remote server's key repeatedly, potentially causing delays in receiving events over federation. ([\matrix-org#16257](matrix-org#16257)) - Avoid temporary storage of sensitive information. ([\matrix-org#16272](matrix-org#16272)) - Fix bug introduced in Synapse 1.49.0 when using dehydrated devices ([MSC2697](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#2697)) and refresh tokens. Contributed by Hanadi. ([\matrix-org#16288](matrix-org#16288)) - Fix a long-standing bug where invalid receipts would be accepted. ([\matrix-org#16327](matrix-org#16327)) - Use standard name for UTF-8 charset in emails. ([\matrix-org#16329](matrix-org#16329)) - Don't try refetching device lists for users on remote hosts that are marked as "down". ([\matrix-org#16298](matrix-org#16298)) - Fix typos in the documentation. ([\matrix-org#16282](matrix-org#16282)) - Link to the Alpine Linux community package for Synapse. ([\matrix-org#16304](matrix-org#16304)) - Use string for `federation_client_minimum_tls_version` documentation examples. Contributed by @jcgruenhage. ([\matrix-org#16353](matrix-org#16353)) - Allow modules to delete rooms. ([\matrix-org#15997](matrix-org#15997)) - Add GCC and GNU Make to the Nix flake development environment so that `ruff` can be compiled. ([\matrix-org#16090](matrix-org#16090), [\matrix-org#16263](matrix-org#16263)) - Fix type checking when using the new version of Twisted. ([\matrix-org#16235](matrix-org#16235)) - Delete device messages asynchronously and in staged batches using the task scheduler. ([\matrix-org#16240](matrix-org#16240), [\matrix-org#16311](matrix-org#16311), [\matrix-org#16312](matrix-org#16312), [\matrix-org#16313](matrix-org#16313)) - Bump minimum supported Rust version to 1.61.0. ([\matrix-org#16248](matrix-org#16248)) - Update rust to version 1.71.1 in the nix development environment. ([\matrix-org#16260](matrix-org#16260)) - Simplify server key storage. ([\matrix-org#16261](matrix-org#16261)) - Reduce CPU overhead of change password endpoint. ([\matrix-org#16264](matrix-org#16264)) - Stop purging from tables slated for removal. ([\matrix-org#16273](matrix-org#16273)) - Improve type hints. ([\matrix-org#16276](matrix-org#16276), [\matrix-org#16301](matrix-org#16301), [\matrix-org#16325](matrix-org#16325), [\matrix-org#16326](matrix-org#16326)) - Raise `setuptools_rust` version cap to 1.7.0. ([\matrix-org#16277](matrix-org#16277)) - Fix using the new task scheduler causing lots of CPU to be used. ([\matrix-org#16278](matrix-org#16278)) - Upgrade CI run of Python 3.12 from rc1 to rc2. ([\matrix-org#16280](matrix-org#16280)) - Include values in SQL debug when using `execute_values` with Postgres. ([\matrix-org#16281](matrix-org#16281)) - Enable additional linting checks. ([\matrix-org#16283](matrix-org#16283)) - Refactor `receipts_graph` Postgres transactions to stop error messages. ([\matrix-org#16299](matrix-org#16299)) - Small improvements to logging in replication code. ([\matrix-org#16309](matrix-org#16309)) - Remove a reference cycle in background processes. ([\matrix-org#16314](matrix-org#16314)) - Only use literal strings for background process names. ([\matrix-org#16315](matrix-org#16315)) - Refactor `get_user_by_id`. ([\matrix-org#16316](matrix-org#16316)) - Speed up task to delete to-device messages. ([\matrix-org#16318](matrix-org#16318)) - Avoid patching code in tests. ([\matrix-org#16349](matrix-org#16349)) - Test against PostgreSQL 16. ([\matrix-org#16351](matrix-org#16351)) * Bump mypy from 1.4.1 to 1.5.1. ([\matrix-org#16300](matrix-org#16300)) * Bump black from 23.7.0 to 23.9.1. ([\matrix-org#16295](matrix-org#16295)) * Bump docker/build-push-action from 4 to 5. ([\matrix-org#16336](matrix-org#16336)) * Bump docker/login-action from 2 to 3. ([\matrix-org#16339](matrix-org#16339)) * Bump docker/metadata-action from 4 to 5. ([\matrix-org#16337](matrix-org#16337)) * Bump docker/setup-qemu-action from 2 to 3. ([\matrix-org#16338](matrix-org#16338)) * Bump furo from 2023.8.19 to 2023.9.10. ([\matrix-org#16340](matrix-org#16340)) * Bump gitpython from 3.1.32 to 3.1.35. ([\matrix-org#16267](matrix-org#16267), [\matrix-org#16279](matrix-org#16279)) * Bump mypy-zope from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1. ([\matrix-org#16291](matrix-org#16291)) * Bump pillow from 10.0.0 to 10.0.1. ([\matrix-org#16344](matrix-org#16344)) * Bump regex from 1.9.4 to 1.9.5. ([\matrix-org#16233](matrix-org#16233)) * Bump ruff from 0.0.286 to 0.0.290. ([\matrix-org#16342](matrix-org#16342)) * Bump serde_json from 1.0.105 to 1.0.107. ([\matrix-org#16296](matrix-org#16296), [\matrix-org#16345](matrix-org#16345)) * Bump twisted from 22.10.0 to 23.8.0. ([\matrix-org#16235](matrix-org#16235)) * Bump types-pillow from 10.0.0.2 to 10.0.0.3. ([\matrix-org#16293](matrix-org#16293)) * Bump types-setuptools from 68.0.0.3 to 68.2.0.0. ([\matrix-org#16292](matrix-org#16292)) * Bump typing-extensions from 4.7.1 to 4.8.0. ([\matrix-org#16341](matrix-org#16341))

@jcgruenhage

No significant changes since 1.93.0rc1. The following issues are fixed in 1.93.0 (and RCs). - [GHSA-4f74-84v3-j9q5](GHSA-4f74-84v3-j9q5) / [CVE-2023-41335](https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-41335) — Low Severity Temporary storage of plaintext passwords during password changes. - [GHSA-7565-cq32-vx2x](GHSA-7565-cq32-vx2x) / [CVE-2023-42453](https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-42453) — Low Severity Improper validation of receipts allows forged read receipts. See the advisories for more details. If you have any questions, email security@matrix.org. - Add automatic purge after all users have forgotten a room. ([\matrix-org#15488](matrix-org#15488)) - Restore room purge/shutdown after a Synapse restart. ([\matrix-org#15488](matrix-org#15488)) - Support resolving homeservers using `matrix-fed` DNS SRV records from [MSC4040](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4040). ([\matrix-org#16137](matrix-org#16137)) - Add the ability to use `G` (GiB) and `T` (TiB) suffixes in configuration options that refer to numbers of bytes. ([\matrix-org#16219](matrix-org#16219)) - Add span information to requests sent to appservices. Contributed by MTRNord. ([\matrix-org#16227](matrix-org#16227)) - Add the ability to enable/disable registrations when using CAS. Contributed by Aurélien Grimpard. ([\matrix-org#16262](matrix-org#16262)) - Allow the `/notifications` endpoint to be routed to workers. ([\matrix-org#16265](matrix-org#16265)) - Enable users to easily unsubscribe to notifications emails via the `List-Unsubscribe` header. ([\matrix-org#16274](matrix-org#16274)) - Report whether a user is `locked` in the [List Accounts admin API](https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/latest/admin_api/user_admin_api.html#list-accounts), and exclude locked users by default. ([\matrix-org#16328](matrix-org#16328)) - Fix a long-standing bug where multi-device accounts could cause high load due to presence. ([\matrix-org#16066](matrix-org#16066), [\matrix-org#16170](matrix-org#16170), [\matrix-org#16171](matrix-org#16171), [\matrix-org#16172](matrix-org#16172), [\matrix-org#16174](matrix-org#16174)) - Fix a long-standing bug where appservices using [MSC2409](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#2409) to receive `to_device` messages would only get messages for one user. ([\matrix-org#16251](matrix-org#16251)) - Fix bug when using workers where Synapse could end up re-requesting the same remote device repeatedly. ([\matrix-org#16252](matrix-org#16252)) - Fix long-standing bug where we kept re-requesting a remote server's key repeatedly, potentially causing delays in receiving events over federation. ([\matrix-org#16257](matrix-org#16257)) - Avoid temporary storage of sensitive information. ([\matrix-org#16272](matrix-org#16272)) - Fix bug introduced in Synapse 1.49.0 when using dehydrated devices ([MSC2697](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#2697)) and refresh tokens. Contributed by Hanadi. ([\matrix-org#16288](matrix-org#16288)) - Fix a long-standing bug where invalid receipts would be accepted. ([\matrix-org#16327](matrix-org#16327)) - Use standard name for UTF-8 charset in emails. ([\matrix-org#16329](matrix-org#16329)) - Don't try refetching device lists for users on remote hosts that are marked as "down". ([\matrix-org#16298](matrix-org#16298)) - Fix typos in the documentation. ([\matrix-org#16282](matrix-org#16282)) - Link to the Alpine Linux community package for Synapse. ([\matrix-org#16304](matrix-org#16304)) - Use string for `federation_client_minimum_tls_version` documentation examples. Contributed by @jcgruenhage. ([\matrix-org#16353](matrix-org#16353)) - Allow modules to delete rooms. ([\matrix-org#15997](matrix-org#15997)) - Add GCC and GNU Make to the Nix flake development environment so that `ruff` can be compiled. ([\matrix-org#16090](matrix-org#16090), [\matrix-org#16263](matrix-org#16263)) - Fix type checking when using the new version of Twisted. ([\matrix-org#16235](matrix-org#16235)) - Delete device messages asynchronously and in staged batches using the task scheduler. ([\matrix-org#16240](matrix-org#16240), [\matrix-org#16311](matrix-org#16311), [\matrix-org#16312](matrix-org#16312), [\matrix-org#16313](matrix-org#16313)) - Bump minimum supported Rust version to 1.61.0. ([\matrix-org#16248](matrix-org#16248)) - Update rust to version 1.71.1 in the nix development environment. ([\matrix-org#16260](matrix-org#16260)) - Simplify server key storage. ([\matrix-org#16261](matrix-org#16261)) - Reduce CPU overhead of change password endpoint. ([\matrix-org#16264](matrix-org#16264)) - Stop purging from tables slated for removal. ([\matrix-org#16273](matrix-org#16273)) - Improve type hints. ([\matrix-org#16276](matrix-org#16276), [\matrix-org#16301](matrix-org#16301), [\matrix-org#16325](matrix-org#16325), [\matrix-org#16326](matrix-org#16326)) - Raise `setuptools_rust` version cap to 1.7.0. ([\matrix-org#16277](matrix-org#16277)) - Fix using the new task scheduler causing lots of CPU to be used. ([\matrix-org#16278](matrix-org#16278)) - Upgrade CI run of Python 3.12 from rc1 to rc2. ([\matrix-org#16280](matrix-org#16280)) - Include values in SQL debug when using `execute_values` with Postgres. ([\matrix-org#16281](matrix-org#16281)) - Enable additional linting checks. ([\matrix-org#16283](matrix-org#16283)) - Refactor `receipts_graph` Postgres transactions to stop error messages. ([\matrix-org#16299](matrix-org#16299)) - Small improvements to logging in replication code. ([\matrix-org#16309](matrix-org#16309)) - Remove a reference cycle in background processes. ([\matrix-org#16314](matrix-org#16314)) - Only use literal strings for background process names. ([\matrix-org#16315](matrix-org#16315)) - Refactor `get_user_by_id`. ([\matrix-org#16316](matrix-org#16316)) - Speed up task to delete to-device messages. ([\matrix-org#16318](matrix-org#16318)) - Avoid patching code in tests. ([\matrix-org#16349](matrix-org#16349)) - Test against PostgreSQL 16. ([\matrix-org#16351](matrix-org#16351)) * Bump mypy from 1.4.1 to 1.5.1. ([\matrix-org#16300](matrix-org#16300)) * Bump black from 23.7.0 to 23.9.1. ([\matrix-org#16295](matrix-org#16295)) * Bump docker/build-push-action from 4 to 5. ([\matrix-org#16336](matrix-org#16336)) * Bump docker/login-action from 2 to 3. ([\matrix-org#16339](matrix-org#16339)) * Bump docker/metadata-action from 4 to 5. ([\matrix-org#16337](matrix-org#16337)) * Bump docker/setup-qemu-action from 2 to 3. ([\matrix-org#16338](matrix-org#16338)) * Bump furo from 2023.8.19 to 2023.9.10. ([\matrix-org#16340](matrix-org#16340)) * Bump gitpython from 3.1.32 to 3.1.35. ([\matrix-org#16267](matrix-org#16267), [\matrix-org#16279](matrix-org#16279)) * Bump mypy-zope from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1. ([\matrix-org#16291](matrix-org#16291)) * Bump pillow from 10.0.0 to 10.0.1. ([\matrix-org#16344](matrix-org#16344)) * Bump regex from 1.9.4 to 1.9.5. ([\matrix-org#16233](matrix-org#16233)) * Bump ruff from 0.0.286 to 0.0.290. ([\matrix-org#16342](matrix-org#16342)) * Bump serde_json from 1.0.105 to 1.0.107. ([\matrix-org#16296](matrix-org#16296), [\matrix-org#16345](matrix-org#16345)) * Bump twisted from 22.10.0 to 23.8.0. ([\matrix-org#16235](matrix-org#16235)) * Bump types-pillow from 10.0.0.2 to 10.0.0.3. ([\matrix-org#16293](matrix-org#16293)) * Bump types-setuptools from 68.0.0.3 to 68.2.0.0. ([\matrix-org#16292](matrix-org#16292)) * Bump typing-extensions from 4.7.1 to 4.8.0. 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Specify IANA-registered service name (MSC4040) matrix-org/matrix-spec#1624

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MSC4040: Update SRV service name to IANA registration #4040

MSC4040: Update SRV service name to IANA registration #4040

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