Is the extension abandoned?

[emvaized]

No updates in months, really rare support and problem-solving in Github tickets, still no proper documentation and css examples on project's wiki, and no big new features or bug fixes in a long time...
I mean, the extension is VERY good at this point and I like it a lot, but there's a lot of potential to grow, as well as to improve stability and fix bugs in some use cases.

Will be glad just to hear that Sidebery is still being worked on and is not abandoned.

[mbnuqw]

Sorry for the silence. No, this addon is not abandoned. The development was stopped for some time, but now I'm working on the new big update (in the local branch) and when it will be more or less ready I'll merge it to the master branch and continue maintenance of the repository (and I'll answer to the other issues).

[emvaized]

@mbnuqw
Thanks for response, glad to hear that!
I'm super excited

[cluxter]

Any:

• clue about what's coming in this next update?
• estimation about a release date?

Thanks for your great work! I started using Sidebery last summer and I can't live without it now. You make my life so much easier and more productive, it's crazy.

[OJFord]

v4.9.1 has since been released, @emvaized, @cluxter.

[strogonoff]

Sidebery works great and is incredibly flexible. If a piece of software doesn't have issues why would one demand changes?

[ayushnix]

@strogonoff I usually avoid using the words "works great" because it's often not true for most software.

Sidebery is a useful addon so I'm using it but it is buggy when working with Firefox containers and when restoring tabs.

[strogonoff]

@strogonoff I usually avoid using the words "works great" because it's often not true for most software.

Huh? You avoid saying “works great” when software doesn’t work great? Same here. If it works great, though, I say it. The attitude that “changes must happen” even if something works just fine strikes me as profoundly wrong, I don’t see why OSS developers should maintain a pretence of activity if they did a good job in the first place.

That said, I nearly stopped using Firefox end of last year so with later versions of this extension YMMV.

[SolitudeSF]

Huh? You avoid saying “works great” when software doesn’t work great? Same here. If it works great, though, I say it.

if something works great, that means you havent used it enough

[ayushnix]

If it works great, though, I say it.

I stopped using Sidebery shortly after I wrote that comment and switched to Tree Style Tabs mostly because of how buggy Sidebery was at the time. TST does feel heavier than Sidebery but it isn't as buggy as Sidebery was. I'm not sure if things have changed. I guess it might be anecdotal experience on our part, which is often subjective but I do agree with what SolitudeSF said. Every software has bugs, it's just a matter who discovers it and the process which led to the discovery. You may not have discovered the bugs I did in my usage but it doesn't mean they didn't exist.

[ayushnix]

Of course, this is an open source software. If anything, I'm grateful that this addon exists simply because using vertical tabs and tree style tabs should be more common than it is. Moreover, choice is always welcome and I would be sadder if TST was the only tree tab extension out there.

[penyuan]

If it works great, though, I say it.

I stopped using Sidebery shortly after I wrote that comment and switched to Tree Style Tabs mostly because of how buggy Sidebery was at the time. TST does feel heavier than Sidebery but it isn't as buggy as Sidebery was.

Two things I like about Sidebery are easy drag-and-drop hierearchical organization of tabs, and a toggle-able option of where to create new tabs when I hit "Ctrl-T": either after the currently open tab, or at the end of my list of tabs. Are those things easily achievable with Tree Style Tabs?

[ayushnix]

easy drag-and-drop hierearchical organization of tabs

I've done this with TST.

toggle-able option of where to create new tabs when I hit "Ctrl-T": either after the currently open tab, or at the end of my list of tabs

I haven't attempted to do this yet so I'm not sure if it's possible. By default, Ctrl+t opens a new tab at the end of the list of opened tabs.

[penyuan]

I haven't attempted to do this yet so I'm not sure if it's possible. By default, Ctrl+t opens a new tab at the end of the list of opened tabs.

OK, thanks for the clarification. Customizing where new tabs show up is a big deal for me, so maybe I'll hang onto Sidebery a bit longer. Really hoping there will be a new release soon-ish that will fix the problem with randomly collapsing trees....

[strogonoff]

I stopped using Sidebery shortly after I wrote that comment and switched to Tree Style Tabs mostly because of how buggy Sidebery was at the time.

FWIW, I used to be an avid user of TST but switched to Sidebery as TST was either buggy or (to me) feature-incomplete. Can’t recall in what exact way, this was probably 2020 or earlier.

Recently I heard there’s an even better extension in town, if I’m back to Firefox I might research it and give it a go. (I wish someone came up with an abstract universal data storage for keeping tab hierarchy information so that one could try different extensions without messing up workflows.)

[ayushnix]

If I'm being honest, neither TST nor Sidebery feel as good to use as vertical tabs in Edge, probably because that's a native feature in Edge, although Edge only has vertical tabs with groups, not tree style tabs. I don't really use Edge though.

I'm invested in this issue enough to make me want to create an addon for tree style tabs but, unfortunately, I'm not a web developer and I'm not familiar with JS/TS.

[strogonoff]

I am, but I’m wary of investing too much into Firefox extension ecosystem since 1) I’m not sure if problems with existing tree-style tab extensions are a result of extension API limitations and 2) there’s a significant chance Mozilla Corporation takes Firefox further into some weird direction forcing promoted content on users…

[megamorphg]

@strogonoff regarding #1 that's more an issue with other browsers, hence why there is no true TST in any other browser (Vivaldi comes the closest and fails). #2 is too nightmare-ish, there will easily be builds that remove such promotions.