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[REVIEW]: MNE-BIDS: Organizing neurophysiological data into the BIDS format and facilitating their analysis #1896

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Submitting author: @sappelhoff (Stefan Appelhoff)
Repository: https://github.com/mne-tools/mne-bids
Version: 0.3.1
Editor: @arokem
Reviewer: @jdkent, @TomDonoghue
Archive: 10.5281/zenodo.3580273

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  • License: Does the repository contain a plain-text LICENSE file with the contents of an OSI approved software license?
  • Contribution and authorship: Has the submitting author (@sappelhoff) made major contributions to the software? Does the full list of paper authors seem appropriate and complete?

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  • A statement of need: Do the authors clearly state what problems the software is designed to solve and who the target audience is?
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  • Functionality documentation: Is the core functionality of the software documented to a satisfactory level (e.g., API method documentation)?
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  • Community guidelines: Are there clear guidelines for third parties wishing to 1) Contribute to the software 2) Report issues or problems with the software 3) Seek support

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  • Summary: Has a clear description of the high-level functionality and purpose of the software for a diverse, non-specialist audience been provided?
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  • References: Is the list of references complete, and is everything cited appropriately that should be cited (e.g., papers, datasets, software)? Do references in the text use the proper citation syntax?

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  • Functionality: Have the functional claims of the software been confirmed?
  • Performance: If there are any performance claims of the software, have they been confirmed? (If there are no claims, please check off this item.)

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  • A statement of need: Do the authors clearly state what problems the software is designed to solve and who the target audience is?
  • Installation instructions: Is there a clearly-stated list of dependencies? Ideally these should be handled with an automated package management solution.
  • Example usage: Do the authors include examples of how to use the software (ideally to solve real-world analysis problems).
  • Functionality documentation: Is the core functionality of the software documented to a satisfactory level (e.g., API method documentation)?
  • Automated tests: Are there automated tests or manual steps described so that the functionality of the software can be verified?
  • Community guidelines: Are there clear guidelines for third parties wishing to 1) Contribute to the software 2) Report issues or problems with the software 3) Seek support

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  • State of the field: Do the authors describe how this software compares to other commonly-used packages?
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  • References: Is the list of references complete, and is everything cited appropriately that should be cited (e.g., papers, datasets, software)? Do references in the text use the proper citation syntax?
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whedon commented Nov 16, 2019

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OK DOIs

- 10.1038/sdata.2016.44 is OK
- 10.3389/fnins.2013.00267 is OK
- 10.1038/sdata.2018.110 is OK
- 10.1038/s41597-019-0104-8 is OK
- 10.1038/s41597-019-0105-7 is OK
- 10.3389/fnins.2018.00530 is OK

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I'm going to put comments on the JOSS paper itself here:

Content Notes

Broadly, the paper looks good, though I feel like it presumes a fairly high level of familiarity / knowledge of the BIDS and MNE worlds, and so I'm not so sure that the paper is as self-sufficient as one might want to introduce the key ideas to a relatively naive reader. I've added a few notes on things that came to mind, and possible suggestions, for doing so.

Examples:

  • In the 1st paragraph, it doesn't indicate how BIDS stores the actual data, and only really refers to metadata. Though full description of BIDS is in other papers, I feel like a quick note along the lines that BIDS is an specification of organizational structure (not a file format) in which data files are stored in existing BIDS-approved file formats might be useful.
  • In the 2nd paragraph, what seems to be missing is a note / introduction to what MNE python is. It sort of skips past noting, for example, that MNE is a package for processing electrophysiology data, making the integration of standardized data structures and analysis pipelines a useful thing.
  • Somewhat relatedly, the paper doesn't explicitly introduce that MNE-BIDS is a Python package (though this is implicit in the mention of Python objects). I would suggest perhaps more explicitly introducing (perhaps in relation to MNE), that MNE-BIDS is a package in the Python ecosystem.
  • In the third paragraph, I feel a bit like it jumps into mechanics while somewhat missing description of the goal of doing so. Potentially there could be an introductory sentence to this paragraph, perhaps along the lines of "The key functionality of the MNE-BIDS package is to take a file structure containing an existing dataset of EEG, MEG or iEEG data, and convert this file structure and metadata organization into a BIDS compatible format."
  • Also, in the third paragraph, what does it mean to be BIDS compatible? This concept is presumed, but if one isn't already quite familiar with the notion of BIDS, I'm not sure this makes sense (this also relates back to para 1 not fully introducing how BIDS is structured). I think this means if file formats are not already a BIDS approved format then this tool can convert them, and if so I feel like this could be explained slightly more.

Typo Notes

  • 2nd paragraph, second to last line: after word 'preprocessing', space before comma

The content notes are meant as possible suggestions, though not reflecting any changes I'd consider strictly necessary.

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TomDonoghue commented Dec 3, 2019

Okay, I have done my main review. In my review, I looked through the code and repository, installed the software, and ran some of the examples. Everything looks good to me, and I think this is a really nice tool, and well developed and useful.

In terms of comments on the repository and code, I have made issues on the main repository, with some notes / ideas on general project thoughts (mne-tools/mne-bids#305) and some little comments on style and consistency in the documentation (mne-tools/mne-bids#304). Comments on the paper are above.

Nothing came up that I consider fundamentally important in a way that I think this project could not be approved for publication in JOSS based on the posted guidelines, so all the comments are offered basically as any possible and optional suggestions that came up as I worked through the project.

I left a couple things unchecked, that are point most related to the main comments I brought up in paper comments and issues on the repository itself - I'm happy to check them off once the authors check through and say if they plan to change anything, so we can check back through those things if so.

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arokem commented Dec 6, 2019

Thanks for the thorough review, @TomDonoghue!

@jdkent : have you had a chance to take a look?

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jdkent commented Dec 7, 2019

Yes, I had a chance to take a look.
MNE-BIDS is a useful package for converting MEG, EEG, and (experimentally) iEEG datasets into BIDS format and interfacing with those BIDS organized datasets.

I have made issues pertaining to the following sections:

Functionality

Documentation

Software Paper

MNE-BIDS looks like a great addition to JOSS! Great work to the authors! I left a few comments to improve the documentation and make interactions with the project better. I also offered some suggested edits to the paper to promote clarity/conciseness. As soon as the above issues are addressed I'll check off the final marks in the review above.

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arokem commented Dec 7, 2019

Fantastic! Thank you both for the detailed and valuable reviews.

@sappelhoff: please let me know if you have any questions and/or ping me here when you have had a chance to address the comments.

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Dear @jdkent and @TomDonoghue we believe that all your valuable feedback has now been addressed. We took extra care to cross link from each of your raised issues to the PRs solving them, so the progress should be thoroughly documented on GitHub.

Thanks again for your reviews - this has really improved our current status with the package!

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and thanks @arokem for organizing the review so far! :-)

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whedon commented Dec 11, 2019

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Thank you @sappelhoff for all the detailed responses and clear linking between comments and PRs - I've been able to follow along clearly with all the updates to all the points, and everything looks great to me!

I think this is a great package in great shape! I have ticked of my remaining review points, and from my end I absolutely think this project / paper is good to be published in JOSS.

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jdkent commented Dec 11, 2019

Thanks @sappelhoff! All the issues I raised were followed up on and all of them have reached a satisfactory conclusion. I have happily checked off all remaining tick marks.

Another 👍 from me for publishing this project in JOSS.

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arokem commented Dec 12, 2019

Yep - looks great. I added a small suggestion to language in mne-tools/mne-bids#333.

Once that's merged or closed, could you please:

  • Make a tagged release of your software, and list the version tag of the archived version here.
  • Archive the reviewed software in Zenodo or a similar service
  • Check the Zenodo deposit has the correct metadata, this includes the title (should match the paper title) and author list (make sure the list is correct and people who only made a small fix are not on it); you may also add the authors' ORCID.
  • Please list the Zenodo DOI of the archived version here.

I can then move forward with accepting the submission.

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Hi @arokem we made a release and archived the software with Zenodo:

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The metadata is aligned with the paper (including title and authors ... orcids are added as well).

Thanks also for your language suggestion, which has been incorporated 👍

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arokem commented Dec 17, 2019

@whedon set archive as 10.5281/zenodo.3580273

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arokem commented Dec 17, 2019

@whedon set version as 0.3.1

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arokem commented Dec 17, 2019

@whedon set 10.5281/zenodo.3580273 as archive

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whedon commented Dec 17, 2019

OK. 10.5281/zenodo.3580273 is the archive.

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arokem commented Dec 17, 2019

@whedon set 0.3.1 as version

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whedon commented Dec 17, 2019

OK. 0.3.1 is the version.

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arokem commented Dec 17, 2019

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arokem commented Dec 17, 2019

@openjournals/joss-eics : I believe this paper is now ready for your approval.

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arfon commented Dec 18, 2019

@whedon accept

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OK DOIs

- 10.1038/sdata.2016.44 is OK
- 10.3389/fnins.2013.00267 is OK
- 10.1038/sdata.2018.110 is OK
- 10.1038/s41597-019-0104-8 is OK
- 10.1038/s41597-019-0105-7 is OK
- 10.3389/fnins.2018.00530 is OK

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INVALID DOIs

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whedon commented Dec 18, 2019

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arfon commented Dec 18, 2019

@whedon accept deposit=true

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whedon commented Dec 18, 2019

🚨🚨🚨 THIS IS NOT A DRILL, YOU HAVE JUST ACCEPTED A PAPER INTO JOSS! 🚨🚨🚨

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arfon commented Dec 18, 2019

@jdkent, @TomDonoghue - many thanks for your reviews here and to @arokem for editing this submission ✨

@sappelhoff - your paper is now accepted into JOSS ⚡🚀💥

@arfon arfon closed this as completed Dec 18, 2019
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Thanks a lot @arfon @arokem and @TomDonoghue @jdkent for the reviews.

This was a great process :-)

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