[styles] Added basic_hut and lean_to categories

[map-per]

Added new categories and translations for amenity=shelter + shelter_type=basic_hut (Bivouac Box) and amenity=shelter + shelter_type=lean_to (Lean-to Shelter).

basic_hut

lean_to

[vng]

I'd like to remove these types from categories.txt

[pastk]

@map-per would you be able to finish it in a few days?
would be great to include it into the next test maps generation!

[map-per]

Yes, I'm working at it at the moment 🤣

[map-per]

I included your suggestions, rebased and tested. For basic_hut I left out "Box" and just used "bivouac" for the translations. For lean-to, I did not get good results, so I left out the translations and hope that they can be added manually.

[pastk]

I included your suggestions, rebased and tested. For basic_hut I left out "Box" and just used "bivouac" for the translations.

"Bivouac" is too generic term, it doesn't even imply there is a roof at all.
If there is no better translation then just use the one from the "Wilderness Hut", e.g. add there a ref = type.tourism.wilderness_hut. For the categories.txt you'll have to duplicate the terms though (as you'd want to have a special term for DE and for EN you can move from "wilderness hut" the "bothy" and "bivvy" options used in some countries).

For lean-to, I did not get good results, so I left out the translations and hope that they can be added manually.

Please add following translations

be = Бівальны навес
bg = Подслон за бивак
ru = Бивачный навес
uk = Бівуачний навіс

They literally mean "Bivouac canopy/roof", not sure if it'd make sense for other languages.
Maybe an "Overnight shelter" or "Shelter for sleeping" or "Bivouac shelter" indeed could work - as all those imply its intended for overnights.
Otherwise leaving untranslated is alright too.

[matheusgomesms]

Is it normal all translations are starting lowercase?

[pastk]

@organicmaps/translations long story short,

a basic_hut is basically a small and basic public hut in countryside, its suitable to spend a night in, but is smaller than an existing wilderness_hut POI (check its translations first) and maybe try e.g. "Basic backcountry hut", "Overnight hut" etc. in your language.

a lean-to is a countryside shelter with a roof and at least one wall missing (hence its not a hut), but unlike other weather shelters its intended and suitable for overnights, hence maybe try e.g. "Overnight shelter", "Bivouac shelter", "Shelter for sleeping" etc. in your language

[map-per]

Ok, used "Bivouac Hut" to emphasize it is a hut.

@NeatNit Can you take another look. The translator now used a different string for basic_hut

[matheusgomesms]

Tried to add PT and PT-BR

[NeatNit]

New suggesting based on the clarifications (thanks for that!), still might not be ideal but I figured I'd get this in before bed. I feel way out of my depth here, if I was a frequent traveller I might know these terms but as it is I feel like I'm guessing in the dark with limited/no success finding references in my language online. Still, I hope my improvised translations are at least better than the automated ones, and better than no translation at all.

[vgrigoriu]

Maybe Colibă? I'm actually not sure what a good translation would be.

[vng]

Why these shelters are category_hotel ??

[map-per]

That's because they are similar to camp grounds and huts (see: #7785 (comment))

[vng]

That's because they are similar to camp grounds and huts (see: #7785 (comment))

@pastk I don't like it. Please, let's keep reasonable consistency here. tourism=camp_site/alpine_hut are bookable. Shelters are not hotels.

[pastk]

@pastk I don't like it. Please, let's keep reasonable consistency here. tourism=camp_site/alpine_hut are bookable. Shelters are not hotels.

How does "bookable" relate to "searchable in OM"? Why would someone expect that a "Hotels" search returns something necessarily bookable?
From my POV its more logical and important that all those features are places to sleep, so its more consistent to have them searched together :)

Having said that, I don't mind it either way as I guess very few people were using "Hotels" search to find camping places before and this PR won't make them use it more often.
We'll need to add a separate search category like "Huts and camp sites" for outdoors anyway.

[muralito]

@pastk I don't like it. Please, let's keep reasonable consistency here. tourism=camp_site/alpine_hut are bookable. Shelters are not hotels.

How does "bookable" relate to "searchable in OM"? Why would someone expect that a "Hotels" search returns something necessarily bookable? From my POV its more logical and important that all those features are places to sleep, so its more consistent to have them searched together :)

Having said that, I don't mind it either way as I guess very few people were using "Hotels" search to find camping places before and this PR won't make them use it more often. We'll need to add a separate search category like "Huts and camp sites" for outdoors anyway.

Maybe is a problem of language and translations, but as i see the problem is that the search is for "Hotels" and not for "Lodging".
"Hotels": noun, an establishment providing accommodations, meals, and other services for travelers and tourists.
"Lodging": noun, a place in which someone lives or stays temporarily.

I agree that one solution could be to improve or expand the categories, or categories and subcategories. ( @pastk, remember the screenshots i posted in #7596)

[biodranik]

Replacing the visible "Hotels" word with "Lodging" (Ночлег) may be helpful. Am I right that shelters are not usually available in cities, so they won't pollute the map/search? What are the examples of such "shelters" btw? Any photos?

[vng]

These are not hotels in any terms, not only bookable.

Please, let's keep a reasonable tradeoff for categories.

[pastk]

Of course they are not.

And this camp site is not either, though some people might call it a thousand stars hotel :)

[biodranik]

Whoever is interested in shelters can find them by typing "shelters" or "campsites".

[map-per]

How about removing @hotel form basic_hut, lean-to and camp_site and caravan_site?

[patepelo]

Speaking of the hotel category. Wouldn't it be better to rename it to: "Accommodation"?

[vng]

I propose to merge this PR without category_hotel.

Then make/discuss new PR with better categories/wording.

[map-per]

Ok, I removed category_hotel, updated the translations and rebased

[pastk]

Many thanks!

[jimcarst]

Ok for nl.

Is there a way to streamline the translations process so I don't get 34 emails, most of which irrelevant to the translation, for two words to be translated? When the translations team is tagged, all members get emails about all subsequent comments in the pull request.

[pastk]

@jimcarst the only way I see for now is to manually unsubscribe from PR's notifications (in the web version there is a button to the right).