Remove Off-Topic forum rules from Rules #2655
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I can almost hear Ephemeral going on about this in the background |
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as dead as Off-Topic is these days, it was once an important part of the community's shitposting history and I would be loathe to lose that history by scrubbing any mention from it of the rules to also refer to the attached issue: the lulzy contrast between the serious everything else and the clearly tongue-in-cheek outline of the Off-Topic rules is supposed to directly highlight what the forum is for, it's kind of like advertising in a sense |
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I don't think it's "losing history" when this content is already duplicated from somewhere else where it belongs would be nice if OT were mentioned on the wiki somewhere, but I don't think this is the place to do it. if there's history to write about, it could be its own article? |
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@Ephemeralis beep |
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@Ephemeralis |
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@Ephemeralis come out to play-ay |
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i'm supremely reluctant to delete history. what's achieved by removing these lines exactly? |
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#2655 (comment) for ur first sentence and #2655 (comment) for ur second |
Because, despite having a historical value, it's still rules. There is a couple of articles and pages that have to be official, or at least appear to be suchs. While one may tell the readers to go and screw themselves in an official announcement (although this is also often frowned upon, at least by yours untruly), they wouldn't (hopefully) put crude jokes on legal matter pages and/or Ranking Criteria, would they? |
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those rules are still in effect on the forum to this day afaik, even if they are (somewhat redundantly) supposedly repeated in forum posts within it also all of them are salient rules and not at all jokes, save for the anime girl inclusion in birthday threads (which is tradition more than anything) |
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they are still in effect and not all of them are jokes. that doesn't address any of the reasons for removing them this isn't the place for forum-specific stuff, you've got pinned threads for that (and you're already using one). you don't see any other forums' rules here cuz it makes no sense
what's achieved by keeping them? don't understand why you'd want this here it seems like an obvious choice to have them on the forum where every poster can see them |
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move rule #3 from off-topic rules to to forum-wide rules in that case, for starters, since it is a forum-wide rule i'll concede on everything else because nobody else seems to give a fuck, but i'd still like to lodge that i don't really approve of demolishing tradition for the sake of 'completeness', remember that we're not a faceless corporate enterprise, and it's ok for "official" documentation to sometimes be a little bit quirky |
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did u not see #2804 or the part where I repeated many times that equivalent stuff exists pinned to the top of the forum (where more people who care about it will see it) 😐 I don't think anyone but u is interpreting this like "demolishing tradition" or "[becoming a] faceless corporate enterprise". would appreciate if u dont put words in my mouth cuz I am strongly against both of those things |
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yes but pinned to the top off an offtopic forum vs encoded in the official rules documentation for a given community are two extremely different things in terms and reach and scope off-topic was a much bigger thing when these rules were written and even though it has since faded, its official omission from the major rules document signals a departure of a tradition that has persisted for over 6 years for reasons that boil down to "it doesn't belong here" and "it's in a document that should appear official", pretty much. it's hardly worth arguing over, but it is what it is. |
resolves #2644
rationale being they're already pinned to the forum and I don't see why this forum's rules are listed here but no other forums' are. marked some translations outdated along the way (they were outdated prior to this PR)