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Provide proper tutorial and show warning when the schematic contain only DC simulation #78

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tckosvic opened this issue Mar 2, 2022 · 5 comments
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tckosvic commented Mar 2, 2022

Compiled qucs-s 0.23 and ran simple tutorial #1 (voltage divider) after creating schematic. Looked to run ok. Simulation dialogue showed:

`Ngspice started...

No compatibility mode selected!

Circuit: * qucs 0.0.23 /home/tom/.qucs/tuts_prj/dc-1.sch

ngspice-36 done
Simulation finished`

Data page *.dpl is created. Pasting a cartesian table into that page as per tutorial shows no results just blank fields.

The AppImage file for qucs-s 0.23 also runs problem but presents no results.

I have plain qucs 0.19 linux compiled on my machine. That runs divider tutorial fine and shows results.
I also have windows qucs 0.19 in wine that also runs and presents results.

Any ideas as to cause of problem?

tom kosvic

EDIT from @ra3xdh :
The list of actions to prevent such issues in the future:

  • Replace Qucs tutorial by Qucs-S tutorial
  • Replace tutorial link in the Help menu by Qucs-S tutorial, not Qucs tutorial.
  • Show a warning when only DC simulation is presented in the circuit; this simulation has no effect with Ngspice/Xyce;
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ra3xdh commented Mar 2, 2022

Hello Tom,
it is not a bug in Qucs-S. The DC simulation has no effect with Ngspice. You need to add TRAN simulation to see the result. Look a the example at the ngspice subdirectory. The Qucs tutorial is not valid when the Ngspice is used as the default simulation kernel and need to be updated.

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ra3xdh commented Mar 6, 2022

Probably it makes sense to give a warning when only DC simulation found in the schematic. For Ngspice/Xyce it has no effect.

@ra3xdh ra3xdh added this to the 0.0.24 milestone Mar 7, 2022
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ra3xdh commented Mar 9, 2022

The list of actions to prevent such issues in the future:

  • Update Chapter 1 of the documentation and provide proper tutorial; don't use tutorial from Qucs;
  • Show a warning when only DC simulation is presented in the circuit; this simulation has no effect with Ngspice/Xyce;

@ra3xdh ra3xdh changed the title qucs-s 0.23 compiles, runs but no data results display Provide proper tutorial and show warning when the schematic contain only DC simulation Mar 9, 2022
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ra3xdh commented Mar 28, 2022

The new tutorial available here: https://github.com/ra3xdh/qucs_s_docs I will replace the links in the application Help menu soon.

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ra3xdh commented Mar 28, 2022

The links in the Help menu are pointing now only to to the Qucs-S tutorials and help documents. The links to old Qucs help are removed because otherwise it can be misleading for new users.

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