O> Onboarding Skills inventory: Developer? Writer? Redditor? etc.

[dckc]

I suggest we encourage new members to fill out a skills inventory. Perhaps when they join formally, but also as part of "welcome to RChain" messages on telegram etc.

edit: After a couple weeks of discussion, we have:

• RChain Coop Introductions (View / respond)
  • short URL: https://goo.gl/ffWXzD
• Edit
  • Responses spreadsheet (available to members of rchain@googlegroups.com only)

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earlier:

By way of example:

• i2b2 transmart foundation kick-off survey June 2017

This perhaps overlaps with #15, but that discussion is so long I can't tell quickly. If there is already a skills inventory, I would like a list of those who identified themselves as software developers.

I discussed this briefly with @patrick727 and he suggested I notify @drbloom and @lapin7 .

[lapin7]

I created once this form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1FJMSkmscappmuN5HbZz1TlqgOWRcgQsdike4Q6-X8p0/edit

We need a kind of form, because there's no interchange between the official member onboarding and the Activist/Member onboarding.

We need to add a request for becoming a member of rchain@googlegroups.com. How do we do that?

[kitblake]

In terms of onboarding workflow, this form should probably follow CONTRIBUTING.md, as in "Please scan the contributing doc, and IF you wanna contribute, THEN fill in this _form_."

(Btw, if anybody is reading this issue via email the form link doesn't work, but it does via the Github UI.)

[Viraculous]

Nice @kitblake. I think the skills inventory when followed, in collaboration with #208, particularly concerning peer learning and work group would bring about constructive synergy among cooperating peers. It could be an adaptive tool for onboarding members.

[dckc]

@lapin7 Do you have any/many developer responses from that survey?

I'm interested to work toward something simpler.

[BelovedAquila]

I buy this idea, very necessary,it tends to streamline and create effective management of issues. I find it that if every member (new members perse) fills In a form containing it's skills inventory, i.e areas of deep knowledge, expertise and experience, issues would be easily managed. Such that, the management of issues would also be guaranteed to be at trusted hands who can effectively manage, analyze and resolve them . Likewise, when the need of a skill arises in the cooperation, someone can easily be identified to its rescue.
Some instances being, the need for transcripts of Rchain Vision into several languages, if skills are being outline in a segment of a form(maybe a skill inventory form), those who are transcribers can easily be spotted and from there the issues can be carried on, such that as transcribers, if they are not able to transcribe a language they might be having links to experts in that language who can. This thereby, would result in effective management and smooth sailing of the cooperation. Basically one who is skilled or an expert in programming tends more to do well in handling issues as regards to programming.
To add to it, In respect to the issue on ground, I also suggest, there should be a sort of redirection of issues to each member based on the skills being outlined or presented by that member. for instance; when we are having issues that are needing of editors, marketers, developer's e.t.c, such issues should be sent like a notification or it sort to members who have outlined or notified in the skill inventory form as having such skills in editing and transcribing, vise versal.
This really is a great step to development and effective management in the cooperative.

[lapin7]

@dckc My skills-inventory-form never went on line. Great that you want to work toward something simpler. I'm looking forward to the new form and to the integration in the CONTRIBUTING.md.

We could also create a form for a skill endorsement. Something like LinkedIn.

I think it's still to early for management of matching issues and skills. At the moment I'm very happy when somebody takes the initiative of doing something, instead of suggesting or managing others. :-) Anyway it's good to have profiles of our members.

[dckc]

Oh... right... linkedin skills... why reinvent the wheel? For better or for worse, a critical mass of the RChain community uses linkedin. We might as well just collect linkedin profile URLs. I wish discord supported links to them. (#210)

[lapin7]

If you click on your own name, then you can write a note. For example the url to your linkedin profile. Like this:

[dckc]

That was my first idea too, @lapin7 , but as I pointed out in #210, nobody else can see those notes.

[lapin7]

Oh what a bummer :-(

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[dckc]

I drafted something:

• RChain Coop Introductions

[kitblake]

That works. I filled it in. Took two minutes, that's what we want.

[ResonanceXX]

Checking the boxes. There doesn't seem to be a change when it is prompted. I'll try some other way. But keep an eye on that. Cheers and well done.

[lapin7]

Sweet. Could you add GPS location: latitude, longitude. 2 digits is enough. like 52, 4 for NL And consider optional sections The intro could give some links to social media and a sign up for rchain@googlegroups.com like: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rchain/join Think also about a confirmation message and what we could put in there. Once you fill out this form, there has to be an ongoing flow of interaction to trigger new users. Like did you know this and that And how to do this and that

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[kitblake]

Did trying another way work?

I requested editing rights from @dckc for the form. @ResonanceXX, if you do the same we can work on improving it.

[ResonanceXX]

Of course. I'm strongly inclined to help out. But I wouldn't rush off to make edits. I'd have to know alot more about the subject matter.  

[kitblake]

Hey, why don't we work together on this @ResonanceXX? Instead of editing @dckc's form (because his forte is actually core code), we'll make a new form and recreate what he did. Then as we craft the content we'll learn about Google forms and we can fine tune the user experience.

Here's a start:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/171oKtb6Y7h3ICeoVkUoWQeSTc8vD2bU8YHns9tRd3os/edit?usp=sharing
You should be able to edit, if not lemme know.

[dckc]

I don't know my lat/long. I like to use "nearby airport" for rough geographic location. I'll try that. More on the rest later...

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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:31 AM, HJ Hilbolling ***@***.***> wrote: Sweet. Could you add GPS location: latitude, longitude. 2 digits is enough. like 52, 4 for NL

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[dckc]

I marked mine OBSOLETE in favor of the copy by @kitblake and made some edits there.

• added a "get involved in the bounty system" blurb above the list of skills
• added location / airport
• in confirmation message, added mention of youtube and twitter and link to FAQ

I'd rather not do sections. I'd like to keep this to "front side of one page". I don't want anybody to go "ugh. too long. Screw it."

[BelovedAquila]

@kitblake would love contributing to the recreation, I added some things I found vital to it since it's a skill inventory form ,such as;
-A brief Rchain introduction,
-Edited the theme at the top tabular,
-Added telegram to the medias,
-Created a fit in for activities/interest,
-Added to the list skills/experiences to broaden the scope(technical support,computer activities,legal practitioner),
-Added skill proficiency,
-Suggestions and Inquiries.
And am still on it though,still put to making it more outstanding and simple.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/171oKtb6Y7h3ICeoVkUoWQeSTc8vD2bU8YHns9tRd3os/edit
what do you think?

[lapin7]

Maybe it's nice to integrate these forms:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc7PSiN8D0Af60Wbaz-sMnt0jMcFjO5EZMxjHYuGFiU7y1DDQ/viewform

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/171oKtb6Y7h3ICeoVkUoWQeSTc8vD2bU8YHns9tRd3os/edit

I like sections and before a section begins you can add a way out to submit. When you get bored of the form you can submit at any moment.

[kitblake]

Thanks for the improvements @dckc and nice work @BelovedAquila. Looks much better! Especially now that the default google style is gone.

Somehow the submit button is gone too. I tried to fill in the form. Probably a result of the burst of editing.

We should do some testing, meaning fill in the form so we have some example data. That will help us determine what fields we want to keep. For this particular form, I'm with @dckc that it should be dead simple. Personally I hate filling in yet-another-profile and I'm the type that would say "Screw it".

Have we an idea for what the ultimate destination of the data will be? Would be good if it comprised a 'Talent Pool'. Then when someone needed, say, a developer or lawyer, they could peruse the data. A google spreadsheet might be sufficient. We can tweak the presentation (column widths, etc) so it'll be readable.

[Keaycee]

Nice work everyone who edited the form @BelovedAquila @dckc . But the form need some adjustment. Especially the skills. I will have to work on the form and grant an access rchain@googlegroups.com for any further edit.

[kitblake]

Go for it @Keaycee. On second look, I'm also missing the:
'added a "get involved in the bounty system" blurb above the list of skills'

This form will be part of the onboarding workflow so mentioning the bounty system provides incentive. It'll be nice to have a definitive signal that so-and-so is onboard and would like to contribute. That bell has been missing so far. (Ideally a real living person will follow up.)

[BelovedAquila]

There you go @Keaycee let's make it outstanding.
@kitblake yes, such beep ups would go a long way. Your point made in the bracket happens to be true, one tends to follow up such beeps or signal on impulse. We see to it.

[Keaycee]

@kitblake I made some adjustment on the form.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeopRXm-DfVRxpYmlPTm4tE0xJKYWDNxFVQ3CVNp492qp-GRA/viewform

There is a need to remove edit permission after any future inputs so as to enable members to fill in the form. I had already shared edit permission to rchain@googlegroups.com which is important. I suggest the public edit permission be removed so member can start filling the form.

[dckc]

This has gone in a very different direction from what I had hoped.

• Why not lead with a profile URL, since lots of RChain folks already maintain a profile on linkedin etc. that gives their name, skills, etc.
• Why "RChain is a blockchain platform ..."? This is for people who have already joined the coop, no?
• Why separate first name from last name?
• How are caps and gowns relevant?

Making it more than one screenful gives an "oh no... how long is this thing?" feeling, to me. I didn't look beyond the first page.

[BelovedAquila]

@dckc I have succeeded in
-Adjusting the name issue,
-Changing the caps and gown, does the present, work for it?, if No, then I could still figure out another.
-Check out the profile URL also, if that's what should be.
And as regards to the "Rchain is a blockchain platform", Wish I understood you better, what do you think it should have been?

[dckc]

@9rb I see you assigned yourself and @jhngrant 4 days ago. What do you plan to do?

[dckc]

I did some google scripting to reformat the data:

flowed text

The script isn't automatically run when new responses come in.

And it's not very pretty. But it's easier to read than the spreadsheet in some ways.

[Ojimadu]

@dckc the link requires access permissions.

[dckc]

oops! ok... I shared it with rchain@googlegroups.com

[lapin7]

@dckc Can we make this procedure as a kind of logon requisite. I get tons of emails for asking request to our docs. They have to become a member of rchain@googlegroups.com.
And folks have to become a collaborator on Github/rchain/bounties.

And when they get a bounty they to fill out more personal data, like:

• W8 or W9 tax form
• Snail mail address
• ETH-address

Could the data above be linked to the public data of Github through a "limited access" database/spreadsheet?

[dckc]

It's not immediately clear how to do all that, @lapin7, but I'll think it over.

[lapin7]

For the moment I think an easy export of bounty-collaborators to a Gsheet would suffice.
I would then make a link based on github-ID in a Gsheet and keep the personal data in a separate Gsheet.

[dckc]

@ysgjay in your recent Greeter work (cf. #783), is there anything like this survey?

• RChain Coop Introductions (View / respond)
  • short URL: https://goo.gl/ffWXzD
• Edit
  • Responses spreadsheet (available to members of rchain@googlegroups.com only)