Remove old-style PyX package

[novoselt]

See https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-devel/9kx4zsnMYlQ/discussion with the summary: we have an ancient version of PyX as an old-style optional package which seems to break pip at least in some cases. On the other hand it is possible to install a newer version through pip directly.

CC: @dimpase @vbraun

Component: packages: optional

Reviewer: Andrey Novoseltsev

Issue created by migration from https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20472

[jdemeyer]

comment:2

You forgot to push...

[dimpase]

comment:3

there isn't anything to push, as far as I know, as it's an old style package...

[jdemeyer]

comment:4

Then why not simply add a new-style pip package for PyX?

[dimpase]

comment:5

Replying to @jdemeyer:

Then why not simply add a new-style pip package for PyX?

what is the point of this?

This is pure bloat - why not add a package for everything in pypi?!

[dimpase]

comment:6

By the way, I don't even get what you mean, really. Do we even have any new-style optional packages without mirrored tarballs, just pypi-installable?

[jdemeyer]

comment:7

Replying to @dimpase:

Do we even have any new-style optional packages without mirrored tarballs, just pypi-installable?

Yes, we do. See mercurial for one example.

[dimpase]

comment:8

Replying to @jdemeyer:

Replying to @dimpase:

Do we even have any new-style optional packages without mirrored tarballs, just pypi-installable?

Yes, we do. See mercurial for one example.

Remove it, too!

[dimpase]

comment:9

Replying to @jdemeyer:

Replying to @dimpase:

Do we even have any new-style optional packages without mirrored tarballs, just pypi-installable?

Yes, we do. See mercurial for one example.

No idea what you mean. It's broken, anyway:

$ sage -p mercurial
Attempting to download package mercurial
Downloading the Sage mirror list
...
Fastest mirror: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.sagemath.org/
>>> Checking online list of optional packages.
>>> Checking online list of experimental packages.
>>> Checking online list of huge packages.
Error: could not find a package matching mercurial
       Try 'sage --package list' to see the available packages
       Did you mean: brial?

[jdemeyer]

comment:10

Why are you using sage -p to install packages? That's a low-level command that you should only use "if you know what you're doing". With sage -i mercurial, it works fine.

[dimpase]

comment:11

Is there any rationale for having all that

build/pkgs/blah/

with the only content build/pkgs/blah/type, so that one can do
sage -i blah, whereas one could just as well do sage --pip install blah with the same effect?

[jdemeyer]

comment:12

Replying to @dimpase:

Is there any rationale for having all that

build/pkgs/blah/

with the only content build/pkgs/blah/type, so that one can do
sage -i blah, whereas one could just as well do sage --pip install blah with the same effect?

User-friendlyness of having one interface (sage -i PKGNAME) instead of multiple ones.

[dimpase]

comment:13

Replying to @jdemeyer:

Replying to @dimpase:

Is there any rationale for having all that

build/pkgs/blah/

with the only content build/pkgs/blah/type, so that one can do
sage -i blah, whereas one could just as well do sage --pip install blah with the same effect?

User-friendlyness of having one interface (sage -i PKGNAME) instead of multiple ones.

given that sage --pip install blah is available, you create more complexity by adding sage -i blah

[dimpase]

comment:14

Replying to @dimpase:

Is there any rationale for having all that

build/pkgs/blah/

with the only content build/pkgs/blah/type, so that one can do
sage -i blah, whereas one could just as well do sage --pip install blah with the same effect?

besides, there is not telling whether what you install with sage -i can be uninstalled. At least in the case of sage --pip you can uninstall! And you still talk about user-friendliness...

see also We can merge the current to appease the cargo cultists and finally get rid of some of the broken packages, but its not entirely satisfactory.

[videlec]

comment:15

see also #21076

[jdemeyer]

Reviewer: Andrey Novoseltsev

[jdemeyer]

Changed author from Andrey Novoseltsev to none

[jdemeyer]

comment:16

Duplicate of #19220.

[embray]

comment:17

Determined to be invalid/duplicate/wontfix (closing as "wontfix" as a catch-all resolution).