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VOCAB: Adds abstract property to Article #228
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How would abstract differ from http://schema.org/description "A short description of the item."? I fear this proposal would add essentially add a duplicate what is essentially the same existing property. That said, we could certainly enhance examples to show the expected use of schema:description in the role of an abstract (although arguably the last example in http://schema.org/Article already does just that). |
See #229 for a pull request that addresses the missing schema:description markup in the MedicalScholarlyArticle example. |
I think the difference is the abstract is part of the paper, while the description is an annotation of this paper, that would be different from a database to another. |
I agree with @progval. People may be interested to provide both a short description of the article and its abstract that may be longer (more than 50 words) and make a distinction between them. But, yes, it is true that this property is very closed schema:description (it only adds the semantic "it is the official abstract of the article and not a description done by an external person"). So, I'm ok if you close this pull request with a "won't add it to schema.org vocabulary". Should I start a thread on the public-vocabs mailing list to get more inputs on this? |
Hello, I think that the How about introducing:
Taking inspiration from the we could (optionally) introduce 2 new properties
Here is an example for a structured abstract:
In case of simple unstructed abstract we would have:
Happy to send a PR or bring that to the mailing list if it helps. Thanks! |
Of the original examples @Tpt cited (JSTOR, arXiv, and HAL), the abstracts for articles seem to generally fall in line with single paragraph descriptions. There is also a mention of abstracts being longer than 50-word descriptions, but so far as I can tell no length limit is expressed in the schema.org documentation for schema:description. @sballesteros makes a good point that Pubmed (and perhaps medical scholarly literature in general?) does appear to provide abstracts that are more structured, although the headings differ slightly from abstract to abstract in a random sampling. Checking another large science database, the Biosis Citation Index, I see single-paragraph abstracts again. So between arXiv, HAL, and Biosis, I'm not sure that the general statement that "structured abstracts are quite important in science" is borne out by the evidence. If we were to put forward a new Abstract type, then I think we could just use schema:about rather than the proposed itemAbstracted or schema:isPartOf properties to link the abstract to the full-text article. It might make more sense, though, to just use the SPAR ontology directly for those who want to provide that level of granularity in markup. Something like the following example allows one to describe the Article via an abstract on one page and link to the full-text of the article on another page via schema:url, providing the schema:description properties for the coarse description and the SPAR structure classes for those clients that might desire the more granular structure:
In any case, yes, I think the proposal warrants more discussion on public-vocabs. |
I could not find super recent data (~2005) but the following references are interesting:
From the first ref:
From the second ref:
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Thanks for the (evidence based :) discussion... I've opened an issue to make sure we track this aside from its proposed implementation - #276 Would an 'abstract' be a sub-property of 'description', in that every value for the former would also be a reasonable value for the latter? Maybe, but then I see the discussion evolved towards an 'abstract' entity with structure and relations... |
It may be preferable to have There is sufficient semantic distinction between "abstract" and "description" that the former need not be a sub-property of the latter. Otherwise, abstract comes across as an even "shorter" version of description. As there is no way to tell what constitutes "short" in |
I agree that An abstract really provides an outline. That is why structured abstracts are becoming more common: they make better outlines for people who no longer have the time to read everything that is published in their domain. Is there any specific impediment to making progress on this property that we could help alleviate? |
Do we have an open issue corresponding to this discussion? I'd like to explore getting a draft property into the pending extension (see pending.webschemas.org). In particular, whether "structured" is handled in terms of properties, or in terms of HTML marking within a single property value. |
re-reading the thread and @sballesteros's earlier proposal, the idea would be roughly to have a type (presumably a CreativeWork) to represent abstracts, and which might have parts which were of the same type. Is there some support here for adding something in this direction to pending.[web]schema[s].org? One nit - we would prefer not to use the same word for new types and properties, if they differ only by case (i.e. the 'abstract' property takes an 'Abstract' as its value). |
Do we agree on two UCs to capture abstracts: 1) literals and 2) structured abstracts ? For the literal case, |
At least for a start schema:abstract with a range of Text and CreativeWork It being most likely that a structured abstract would be described in a |
This property is very useful for scholar articles that are often referenced with their abstract by databases like JSTOR, arXiv, HAL...