[Test Maps] orange_box_x360

[snake-biscuits]

Tools

• Level Editor(s):
  • Hammer
  • Hammer++ (TF2)
• Compiler(s):
  • vbsp, vvis, vrad, vbspinfo (Half-Life 2)
• Post-Compiler(s):
  • makegamedata.exe (Dino D-Day SDK)

Documentation / Guides

• Valve Developer Community: Category: Level Design
• Compiling `valve.orange_box_x360` maps #154

Maps

• Basic room with a spawnpoint, lighting & displacements
  mapsrc/Hammer/Half-Life 2/shack.vmf -> maps/Xbox360/The Orange Box/shack.360.bsp
  • sprp v5 (currently v6; need to try another compiler set)
  • Entry in sources.txt crediting mapper / contributor
  • Compiled
  • .bsp.info.txt file with vbspinfo output for PC .bsp
  • .360.log file with makegamedata.exe log
  • Can be launched in-game (no crash, fully lit & textured etc.)
• One sprp v7
  • Entry in sources.txt crediting mapper / contributor
  • Compiled
  • .bsp.info.txt file with vbspinfo output for PC .bsp
  • .360.log file with makegamedata.exe log
  • Can be launched in-game (no crash, fully lit & textured etc.)
• One sprp v9
  • Entry in sources.txt crediting mapper / contributor
  • Compiled
  • .bsp.info.txt file with vbspinfo output for PC .bsp
  • .360.log file with makegamedata.exe log
  • Can be launched in-game (no crash, fully lit & textured etc.)

Active Mods / Modding Community

• Valve Developer Community (Wiki)
• TF2maps (Forums & Discord)

[metalex10]

I don't know if this information works for you

https://github.com/metalex10/SourceEngine2007/tree/master/src_main/utils/xbox/MakeGameData

[snake-biscuits]

The Official Xbox 360 Source Modding Server (Discord) has some guides and tools for porting maps
Looks like they use some tools that shipped with Dino D-Day

bin/makegamedata.exe is still included with the Dino D-Day SDK
It also has a -ps3 flag, indicating that the PS3 Orange Box has a unique map format
EA shut down the PS3 Orange Box servers years ago, testing will be very difficult
I also don't own a PS3 for testing that branch

[snake-biscuits]

More Xbox360 research:

• Can you port Source Engine maps to the Xbox 360? If so, how? #79
• how use x360.py? #153

[snake-biscuits]

bin/makegamedata.exe is still included with the Dino D-Day SDK

Some manipulation of game paths is necessary to get this working
The tool also fails to convert the latest orange_box format (specifically sprp v10)

AFAIK Dino D-Day is on the Portal 2 branch, which further complicates things

[snake-biscuits]

Dino D-Day's makegamedata.exe ported hl2/sdk_shader_samples.bsp and loaded in Xenia
Tried tf/arena_nucleus.bsp without physics & it hung for a while, probably due to missing assets
(conversions need .vhv & other prop files to mount)

sdk_shader_samples is one of a handful of PC only hl2 maps, I noted this in:

• Edge Case maps #108

Also, sdk_shader_samples has no static props, which simplified things

Screenshots

[snake-biscuits]

While a xbspinfo tool exists in the 2007 Source SDK code, it only checks byte sizes
Clearly the engine limits for the Xbox360 have different considerations (RAM)

[snake-biscuits]

Built a map in HL2's Hammer & ported it over
A rough facsimile of my process can be found in #154

Screenshots

[metalex10]

check this source

https://github.com/nillerusr/source-engine/blob/physx/public/bspfile.h

and

https://github.com/nillerusr/source-engine/tree/physx/utils/xbox/MakeGameData

if you need , i compiled this and share binaries on PM

[metalex10]

is 19-21 maps support
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/BSP_(Source)

[snake-biscuits]

is 19-21 maps support

Haven't checked.
tests/maps/Xbox360/shack.bsp is PSBV v20 w/ v6 sprp

Ask around in the Xbox 360 Modding Discord
Almost everything I needed to port maps was in there
The MODDING>mods-and-tools channel has all the tools

bsp_tool isn't going to be doing the map porting
makegamedata.exe is good enough for now

If anyone knows the details of how this works, they do

Plus, I wrote a whole guide so anyone can get started without discord access:

• Compiling `valve.orange_box_x360` maps #154

Most of the last 2 days was spent crunching this out, I'm not planning to return to it anytime soon

[snake-biscuits]

shack.360.bsp is good enough for now
Static props are broken rn, but that could easily be years of work
Official tools are official tools, broken outputs or not

I'm sure higher quality ports could be attained, but that's not the focus of bsp_tool

That might change in future when we push for "Exhaustive" testing
But that is far in the future
I likely won't return to this branch until after the 1st full pass of:

• Test maps for every branch #16

After that, we can look at exhaustive testing, tho that might require Git LFS

But right now, I have no further motivation to focus on this branch

[metalex10]

vbsp: -localphysx
vvis: -mpi -fast
vrad: -mpi -textureshadows -hdr -StaticPropLighting -StaticPropPolys -final

[snake-biscuits]

vbsp: -localphysx
vvis: -mpi -fast
vrad: -mpi -textureshadows -hdr -StaticPropLighting -StaticPropPolys -final

Some of those options are specific to Left4Dead & Left4Dead2
-mpi is broken on some other branches

According to Left 4 Dead 2's vbsp:

$ "Left 4 Dead 2/bin/vbsp.exe" -game "Left 4 Dead 2/left4dead2" --help
-localphysx : use the local version of PhysX, don't rely on PhysX System Software.

Half-Life 2 maps fail to compile if you use these settings
Not sure why you shared this

[snake-biscuits]

Maps should be using sprp v5 for The Orange Box, not v6
Adjacent games use v7 & v9 so we might not have to split branches
But to satisfy #90 we will need at least 1 map for each sprp format

[metalex10]

is not vbsp.exe from left 4 dead 2, is for hl2