Add some more rock types to structured tags + fix typos

[scd]

Oh and some of the common local rock types that I miss are:

• chert (sedimentary)
• serpentinite (metamorphic)
• breccia (igneous).

[brendanheywood]

From Harold Jun 26 email:

So, within the new main-group "Rock Type: Hydrothermal and Metasomatic" simply list

• Quartz (Hydrothermal and Metasomatic)

[flugrost]

Hey Simon, Brendan,

thank you for invitation.

I am interested in improvement of rock type tags too.
I think it's interesting and the rock in general already supplys an idea of how to climb there. (Otherwise it males curious to find out). Additionally I'm Geologist :)

At first, when I started, I tended to include most of the rocks to very general types. However, as more as I consider ... After all it does not really matter how long the lists are.

So finally I tried on a realistic basis to list and sort all climbable rock types. That means I did not include very special rocks which e.g. hardly are accessible or only can be climbed in a very fresh state or exist only twice on the planet, only in underground mines or only as very thin layers.

I agree that chert and serpentinite are two rock types which should be added. As Geologist, I would suggest not to use beccia (igneous) but agglomerate. Would that be fine with you?

However, to my own surprise there are a lot more of rock types which indeed are used by climbers :)

Here are the results:

1. Sedimentary (2 new. See *)
   (Sedimentary)
   Limestone
   Dolomite
   Sandstone
   Gritstone
   Greywacke
   Conglomerate
   *Arkose
   *Chert
2. Metamorphic (4 new. See *)
   (Metamorphic)
   Gneiss
   Schist
   Marble
   Quartzite
   *Serpentinite
   *Amphibolite
   *Greenschist
   *Hornfels
3. Igneous (11 new and 1 remark. See *)
   (Igneous)

*Anorthosit
*Peridotite
*Gabbro
*Diorite
*Tonalite
*Syenite
*Granodiorit
Granite

_Andesite
*Trachyte
*Tephrite
*Phonolite
Basalt
Dolerite/_Diabase
Ignimbrite
Rhyolite
Tuff
Agglomerate

*4. Hydrothermal and Metasomatic (completely new)
(Hydrothermal and Metasomatic)
Quartz

What do you think?
I'm open for improvements and I think I could supply an example for each one - if necessary :)

Best regards
Harald from Germany

[scd]

This is awesome feedback. We will add these.

Actually I think there is human interest in getting together an article showing each rock type. If you are up to it, I would love to take you up on the offer.

[flugrost]

What would you like to have? One possibility is to keep the thecrag info about rocktypes as short as possible and additionally to supply links to agreeable wikipedia articles. I will consider and supply an example :) Good night. It's midnight in Germany.

[flugrost]

What would you like to have? One possibility is to keep the thecrag info about rocktypes as short as possible and additionally to supply links to agreeable wikipedia articles. I will consider and supply an example :) Good night. It's midnight in Germany.

[scd]

I was thinking of a site article with a climbers description of what it is like to climb each type of rock, maybe with a photo or link to wikipedia. Would also be good to list some classic crag examples for each.

No rush with this.

[brendanheywood]

A few random thoughts:

Each rock type should have a color, I'm thinking of showing a world map with each cluster color coded by rock type similar to proposed grade and style. Would be cool to see the trends and mountain ranges etc

Each type should just have a chunk of markdown which can then contain links to wherever. Think we already have this in place

Definitely should make sure that each type is used by a few crags and we can automatically show the most classic crags of that type.

I can see a great article with all the details and stats similar to the grade page. No of routes for each type. Average quality and grades of routes.

[flugrost]

Good morning. Will think about it and make some proposals. :)

Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2015 schrieb Brendan Heywood :

A few random thoughts:

Each rock type should have a color, I'm thinking of showing a world map
with each cluster color coded by rock type similar to proposed grade and
style. Would be cool to see the trends and mountain ranges etc

Each type should just have a chunk of markdown which can then contain
links to wherever. Think we already have this in place

Definitely should make sure that each type is used by a few crags and we
can automatically show the most classic crags of that type.

I can see a great article with all the details and stats similar to the
grade page. No of routes for each type. Average quality and grades of
routes.

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[flugrost]

As you can generate a search based on tags (up to now without the rock
type tag) this partly will be done automatically, as soon as each rock type
is in use!?

[scd]

I have updated the website tag configurion. @flugrost could you please review in case I missed something. I note that there were only 10 * new Igneous tags not 11.

[flugrost]

Nearly perfect. Thank you :)

Under "Igneous Rocks", two types only are missing:

• Andesite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andesite
• Agglomerate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglomerate

What Simon named "igneous breccia" is covered by "Agglomerate". Indeed it's an own type despite the components e.g. might consist of basalt only. That's because of the parallel use of basalt for a composition of Minerals and a rock type :)

Under "Hydrothermal and Metasomatic" similarily to the other types I would suggest also to list the "headline type" again
"Hydrothermal and Metasomatic" as than this could be choosen for everything else but "Quartz"

[flugrost]

Hi, tried to add at least one crack to each rock type. Started with 'Sedimentary Rocks':
I'm not sure with respect to climbing spots in Arkose and I do not know climbing spots in cherts.
Here is the list:
+++Limestone - Wilder Kaiser
++++Dolomite - Wilder Kaiser
++++Sandstone - Bessenbach
++++Gritstone - The roaches (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_climbing_in_the_Peak_District#Gritstone)
++++Greywacke - Bocksberg
++++Conglomerate - Montserat, Meteora
++Arkose - ((Uluru)) ((Fountain Formation-Flatirons))
Chert

[flugrost]

And here 'Hydrothermal and Metasomatic':
++++Quartz - Göthefelsen, Borstein, Pfahl

To be continued with other rock types :)

[flugrost]

Please add "slate" to 'Metamorphic rocks'. Indeed, I know one (see below)

++++Gneiss - Ponte Brolla
Schist (mostly connected with gneiss, surely routes in the Alps)
++Marble - ((Cararra))
++++Quartzite - Wheeler Peak
++++Serpentinite - Keller Rangen
++++Amphibolite - Großes Grünhorn
++++Greenschist - Lorsbacher Wand
Hornfels
+++Slate - http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/germany/saaletal/area/128465595

[scd]

Harald, I have made the three further config changes you suggested.

This is where it gets more exciting. I have granted you global permissions so you can update these details to any crag around the world so you can update an example of each type without involving us.

Do you use Google docs? I am thinking we could collaborate (actually mainly you) in writing an article to be published on theCrag about rock types from a climbers perspective. We would put your name to it as an authoritative source. For example limestone can have sharp edges that can cut ropes, cams can walk on smooth cracks and a more active leg work is required (my inner thighs ached after the first day on limestone). We would link to the various faceted searches on theCrag as well as link to detailed technical descriptions on wikipedia. Over time it would be good to embed a photo of a cliff on theCrag of each type.

We would be happy to support this work, maybe enhance the faceted searches (eg order logbook by rock type) based on your recommendations. The article does not have to be 100% complete, but when you are happy we would do a shout out on Facebook asking for others to input.

It is much better for you to take the lead on this, because you are the expert and we are basically too busy to do the a proper job on this in a timely fashion.

If you are happy with this direction and putting your name to an article then I will create a google doc for you to work on. I recon there will be a few climbers who are really interested in this aspect of climbing, and not just geologists.

[flugrost]

Hi Simon, thank you.

It will take some time :)
In the meantime please add "slate" to metamorphic rocks and as you previously whished, "brecia" to igneous :) Indeed not all fits into agglomerates. You were right :)

BTW: I added some photos. Can they only be seen by inlogged members? No. As I see listed photos under Germany when I am not logged in.
Nummer of photos is displayed under "Index", but when I click "photo" I get the display 0 Photos in Huberfelsen. When I am logged in, I obviuosly see all the photos which I uploaded. Who can see the photos? I do not find privacy settings for photos.

[scd]

I think this is because you have a private account. Our privacy settings is currently not that fine tuned.

[brendanheywood]

Is this the admin moderation?

[scd]

I have just added slate and brecia. @brendanheywood Is this what you are refering to?

[brendanheywood]

No I meant the photos when just uploaded need some back end approval don't they still?

[scd]

Ah, Harald has a private account. I think that photos, ascents and profile of private accounts are hidden. He will have to set his account to public.

We have discussed making privacy settings more fine tuned. This is not on my radar yet.

[flugrost]

1. Rock type:
   sorry for causing work. I obviously mistyped: it's "breccia".
2. Private settings:
   The only setting I find is "Public: Make my logbook and profile public". This can be activated or not. As I do not use thecrag as a logbook and in general I am not eager for connecting my contributions with my name, I did not activate. (What would be displayed? flugrost or may name? flugrost unfortunately would be easy to connect wirh my name in connection with Steinwald. My fault :) Maybe I can change.) However I did not realize that this also affects the photos, especially as I myself can see them, as long as I am logged in. As long as the privacy settings are not finetuned, maybe it's helpful just to write something like "Public: Make my logbook and profile public and also enable common access to my uploaded photos". Generally it's a pitty, as photos give live to the cliffs and climbs and surely make thecrag more attractive for users.

[flugrost]

Privacy: OK, that's it. I'll consider to change Name and account-name.

[scd]

Or just wait until we fine tune, or create a second account.
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Privacy: OK, that's it. I'll consider to change Name and account-name.

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[flugrost]

BTW: Date of birth does not work. Allways resets itself to 19.01.2038. Anonymising independently of privacy settings :)

[flugrost]

I exchanged to https://www.thecrag.com/climber/steinreich and Max Stein

BTW, Just for your info (I generally don't care about it):

When I have a look in "Recent contributions by Max" something seems not to work. Info there "updated a grade for" listing a lot of climbs. Some of the lists refer to climbs where I just deleted my personal ticks (gym DAV Karlsbad, 41 min ago), the others refer to climbs where I only updated rock type of crack/cliff about 6 hours ago but never did anything else, especially not in single climbs. I not even clicked them :) so I don't think I did something wrong.

best regards
Harald

[flugrost]

Good morning. Finished. Each (!) rock type has an example even within
Thecrag. At the moment I do not know how to proceed. Maybe you have an idea
how to include some f the info best.

best regards

Am Freitag, 13. November 2015 schrieb Simon Dale :

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[brendanheywood]

Thanks Harald that looks really great. Leave it with us and we'll figure how to work into the system

[flugrost]

Did you already realize this UK-climbing site? For sure!?

They also included rock types. Not all we have, but most of them. Really
good! Think there also is a geologist included :)

And their search-funktion even assisted me on some of the rock types I had
problems with.
I might know where to look for the rock, but do not allways know where
there are climbable ones.

http://www.ukclimbing.com/general/search.html?cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=Granodiorite&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&cx=012320157739014986830%3Azyxmlwsazl

Also a great thing and looks like a good page in the whole.

And keep in mind there still are a lot of rock types not included :)
E.g. salt. However I can't imagine that there really are climbing sites.
Maybe somewhere in mines you can climb, but not really sport climbing or
mountaineering :)

Have a nice day.

Harald

Am Sonntag, 15. November 2015 schrieb Brendan Heywood :

Thanks Harald that looks really great. Leave it with us and we'll figure
how to work into the system

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[flugrost]

P.S.: Should you include Migmatite please us the time to correct Breccia. Think the typing kistake is due to my fault, however correctly spelled it's Breccia

[brendanheywood]

We are not sure when we will get to this so feel free to keep correcting anything in that google doc if you find any other issues. We will comment here when we start the work to integrate it. thanks again!

[flugrost]

Good morning,

I have been contacted by a climber and route setter. e met yesterday.
He refered to

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https://www.thecrag.com/climbing/germany/oberpfaelzer-wald/area/427256604

and

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https://www.thecrag.com/climbing/germany/oberpfaelzer-wald/area/420181041

There obviously is not really an official allowance but a
toleration for climbing and route setting only, because of a special
situation and natural conservation
area and so on.

The toleration too only was given presupposing that no publication at
all will be done in order to prevent to much traffic and problems so on.

One can surely see this in different ways and agree or not. However, it's
the decission of the owner respectively of the authorities. I personally
think they themselves gave a toleration despite they were not supposed and
legitimized to do so.
So, we, the climbers cannot complain and better try to avoid any trouble in
order to keep the chance for climbing at least on "low level".

Is it possible somehow to switch these two crags to a not-public
state? Otherwise I will have to copy and save and then delete. The only
other involved person is Christoph Rauch, whom I already informed.

Best regards
Harald

[scd]

The problem with removing it (besides not being able to tick routes) is that that it will be added again by someone else, and that is just on our site. It will be documented in many places on the Internet. So we remove it now, but it is just not possible to stop people re-adding it.

The best thing to do is to keep it with a clear statement and no access descriptions and no geo location. It should be made clear in area description that the crag is not to be located nor access descriptions to be provided. Some areas we have removed topos and route descriptions as well.

On a technical issue the site does not have a delete, all you can do is change the name and move it. But this is a short term solution as somebody will add it back.

Maybe you can get the land owner to talk to us directly so we can work out a suitable long term solution. At the moment we are talking through three people.

[flugrost]

Hi,

I do not know if you already realized that:

just for myself I included the climbable rock info and links to
the searchfunctions for the individuable rocks within the test area:

https://www.thecrag.com/climbing/world/area/812165115

Possibly it is of any use for you as well.

Refering to an older idea of you:

It is hard, no, nearly impossible to describe individual typical climbing
features
and resulting climbing technics of rocks. Strongly depends on the site, too.

That's the case especially within metamorphic and igneous rocks.
It not only depends on material but on structures and textures, exposition
and weathering too.
E.g. a Granite can be fine and big grained or even has a porhyritc
structure.
However possibly this all doesn't matter, in case the Granite is polished
by water or ice
or as you mainly use younger tectonic structures like cracks for climbing.

Have fun.

Best regards
Harald

Am Sonntag, 15. November 2015 schrieb Brendan Heywood :

We are not sure when we will get to this so feel free to keep correcting
anything in that google doc if you find any other issues. We will comment
here when we start the work to integrate it. thanks again!

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[brendanheywood]

That's really cool, but I'm not sure how to best take advantage of it. But this does immediately jump out at me as perhaps the start of a much better way of creating help docs and articles, @scd what's you thoughts about having a new node type or 'help' or 'article' and then we could collaboratively edit stuff like this? There'd be a bit of work to scan the markdown and calc any stuff we need to inject only if needed like the grade tables etc. template changes but nothing that we wouldn't have already done or need to do anyway with any plan to make the help stuff data instead of code.

[scd]

Yes help articles does have hierarchy similar to the nodes. There is no structural reason why we cannot do this.

There may be multiple root nodes (ie not just World). The main thing is that some of the help articles are Mason templates, some of which rely on system data.

I have wanted to put the help into the database for a long time.

If we do it I would like to take a bigger view and open up the help to general community help so we get articles from others.

Probably the biggest benefit will be it will hook into our Karma, and streams framework with only minimal integration work.

I think we are in an amazing position to provide a very unique framework for blogging climbing articles.

Even though I see no technical reason why this will be particularly difficult there will be a fair bit of work on lot's of little issues.

We should nut this out further.

[flugrost]

When the rock type structure at some point in time might be implemented better than in the test area, one could offer the rock type tag as link to the refering rock description. However, generally I think not evybody should be able to edit such info besides the climbing data base. Nice idea with the help function :)

[flugrost]

Hi, I just recall the above matter "rock types" and rock taggings. I have no idea if anyone noticed the recent changes within the test area and if anybody cares at all. However, for sure this is not the ideal place for presentation and thus, I do not plan really to improve this at the moment. I will better supply a link to separate work which includes "everything". It's already finished. I think you might take advantage of it for Thecrag, too. BTW: who did the translations of rock tags from English to German? Not every detail looks like automatic translation. However, I do not really appreciate all translations, but I do not care too much, as well as with the forgotten corrections/improvements I asked for long ago. My further separate work is solution of all these problems :) best regards Harald / Max Stein

[flugrost]

P.S.: The upcoming link-info will fully be available in English and German. Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb Harald Rost :

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[brendanheywood]

hi @flugrost, can you provide a link to the test area changes? Nobody is watching that area, it's essentially a place we move things to be deleted later on.

Also if you can provide better translations for the rocks that would be great. @rouletout and @nicHoch are on the core team and both speak german, but none of us are geologists :)

[flugrost]

Hi Brendan, Thanks for the anwer. Some are watching :) I suppose, I gave info and links earlier in time, but doesn't matter! Here it is again: http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843 best regards Harald Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb Brendan Heywood :

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hi @flugrost <https://github.com/flugrost>, can you provide a link to the test area changes? Nobody is watching that area, it's essentially a place we move things to be deleted later on. Also if you can provide better translations for the rocks that would be great. @rouletout <https://github.com/rouletout> and @nicHoch <https://github.com/nicHoch> are on the core team and both speak german, but none of us are geologists :) — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1930 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL> .

[rouletout]

Hallo Harald Ich bin Ulf vom theCrag team. Ich habe die meisten Übersetzungen für deutsch gemacht. Gerne nehme ich deine Korrekturen und Anregungen auf. Bitte sag mir auch, welche Vorschläge von dir 'ignoriert' wurden. Danke für deine Unterstützung, Grüsse Ulf

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Am 03.04.2017 um 09:47 schrieb flugrost ***@***.***>: Hi Brendan, Thanks for the anwer. Some are watching :) I suppose, I gave info and links earlier in time, but doesn't matter! Here it is again: http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843 best regards Harald Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb Brendan Heywood : > hi @flugrost <https://github.com/flugrost>, can you provide a link to the > test area changes? Nobody is watching that area, it's essentially a place > we move things to be deleted later on. > > Also if you can provide better translations for the rocks that would be > great. @rouletout <https://github.com/rouletout> and @nicHoch > <https://github.com/nicHoch> are on the core team and both speak german, > but none of us are geologists :) > > — > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#1930 (comment)>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL> > . > — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.

[flugrost]

Hi Ulf, das geht ja schon fast 2 Jahre. Auch mit Google-Texte haben wir schon gearbeitet. Aber das ist jetzt alles überkommen. Denke, daß Breccia (Korrektur Tippfehler, da fehlt ein c) und Migmatite (Neuaufnahme bei Metamorphiten) in den englischen Tags noch offen sind. Migmatite gehört sicher in die Systematik, als Tag ist er ggf. aber auch verzichtbar. Da er nach mehrmaliger Thematisierung nicht aufgenommen wurde, habe ich's deshalb dabei belassen und das für mich so gelöst: https://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/812271393 Es gibt Migmatite in der Datenbank. Die findet man so über die Suchfunktion halt nicht, wenn sie als Gneis getagged sind. Ein paar der ins Deutsche übersetzten Gesteinsnamen sind so nicht richtig oder suboptimal. Hornfels ist, glaube ich, als Hornstein übersetzt. Das ist etwas anderes. Hornstein ist ein nichtkletterbarer Chert (und der wird heute nicht mehr übersetzt) :) Waren ein paar Dinge. Slate ist Tonschiefer. Ich weiß nicht alles auswendig. Ich müßte jedes einzelne Gestein bzw. einen Beispielcrag für jedes Gestein anklicken, um die aktuelle Übersetzung zu sehen. In der Tagauswahl und der Hilfe sind ja weiter nur die Englischen Begriffe (und die sind in aktueller Form von mir). SedimentarySedimentary Conglomerate Dolomite Greywacke Gritstone Limestone Sandstone Arkose ChertMetamorphicMetamorphic Gneiss Marble Quartzite Schist Serpentinite AmphiboliteGreenschist Hornfels SlateIgneousIgneous Granite Basalt Dolerite Ignimbrite Rhyolite Tuff AnorthositPeridotite Gabbro Diorite Tonalite Syenite Granodiorit TrachyteTephrite Phonolite Andesite Agglomerate BreciaHydrothermal and MetasomaticHydrothermal and Metasomatic Quartz Da fallen mir gerade noch ein paar Fehler im Englischen auf: Anorthosite, Granodiorite Es fehlt im Englischen das e am Ende. Stelle Thecrag aber demnächst einen Link zur Verfügung. Da ist das alles sauber in Tabellenform und es gibt eine deutsche und englische Version. mfg Harald

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P.S.: Should you include Migmatite please us the time to correct Breccia. Think the typing mistake is due to my fault, however correctly spelled it's Breccia Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb rouletout :

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Hallo Harald Ich bin Ulf vom theCrag team. Ich habe die meisten Übersetzungen für deutsch gemacht. Gerne nehme ich deine Korrekturen und Anregungen auf. Bitte sag mir auch, welche Vorschläge von dir 'ignoriert' wurden. Danke für deine Unterstützung, Grüsse Ulf > Am 03.04.2017 um 09:47 schrieb flugrost ***@***.***>: > > Hi Brendan, > > Thanks for the anwer. > > Some are watching :) > I suppose, I gave info and links earlier in time, but doesn't matter! > > Here it is again: > http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843 > > best regards > Harald > > > > > Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb Brendan Heywood : > > > hi @flugrost <https://github.com/flugrost>, can you provide a link to the > > test area changes? Nobody is watching that area, it's essentially a place > > we move things to be deleted later on. > > > > Also if you can provide better translations for the rocks that would be > > great. @rouletout <https://github.com/rouletout> and @nicHoch > > <https://github.com/nicHoch> are on the core team and both speak german, > > but none of us are geologists :) > > > > — > > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > <#1930 (comment) >, > > or mute the thread > > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL> > > . > > > — > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread. > — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1930 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4inEXW_NPlX4sJAoxpgRDLSE1_eRks5rsRYugaJpZM4Eq3uL> .

[flugrost]

Have a look on the following URLs. You are free to link on the article or just somehow to use the tables in English and German. http://www.dav-karlsbad.de/klettergesteine-klettern-fuer-geologisch-interessierte http://www.dav-karlsbad.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/climbrock-deutsch.pdf http://www.dav-karlsbad.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/climbrock-englisch.pdf Best regards Harald

[rouletout]

Hallo Harald, ich bin’s nochmals. Im Anhang ein kleines CSV-File mit den Englischen Rock Types. Wäre es für dich möglich a) diese zu korrigieren, wo sie falsch sind (bitte eigene Spalte einfügen, so dass ich das sehe) und b) die korrekte Deutsche Übersetzung anzubringen? Das wäre super, ich kann dann alles im System korrigieren. Danke für deine Hilfe und beste Grüsse Ulf

[flugrost]

Hi Ulf, da ist kein Anhang. Habe es als einfache Tabelle hier eingestellt: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTPGLh_yZpu2Ggrj9jWwisNif0MMexWhyi57lD9kEvg/edit?usp=sharing mfg Harald Am Dienstag, 4. April 2017 schrieb rouletout :

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Hallo Harald, ich bin’s nochmals. Im Anhang ein kleines CSV-File mit den Englischen Rock Types. Wäre es für dich möglich a) diese zu korrigieren, wo sie falsch sind (bitte eigene Spalte einfügen, so dass ich das sehe) und b) die korrekte Deutsche Übersetzung anzubringen? Das wäre super, ich kann dann alles im System korrigieren. Danke für deine Hilfe und beste Grüsse Ulf > On 03 Apr 2017, at 08:54, Ulf Fuchslueger ***@***.*** ***@***.***');>> wrote: > > Hallo Harald > > Ich bin Ulf vom theCrag team. Ich habe die meisten Übersetzungen für deutsch gemacht. Gerne nehme ich deine Korrekturen und Anregungen auf. Bitte sag mir auch, welche Vorschläge von dir 'ignoriert' wurden. > > Danke für deine Unterstützung, Grüsse > > Ulf > > > Am 03.04.2017 um 09:47 schrieb flugrost ***@***.*** ***@***.***');> <mailto: ***@***.*** ***@***.***');>>>: > >> Hi Brendan, >> >> Thanks for the anwer. >> >> Some are watching :) >> I suppose, I gave info and links earlier in time, but doesn't matter! >> >> Here it is again: >> http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843 < http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843> >> >> best regards >> Harald >> >> >> >> >> Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb Brendan Heywood : >> >> > hi @flugrost <https://github.com/flugrost < https://github.com/flugrost>>, can you provide a link to the >> > test area changes? Nobody is watching that area, it's essentially a place >> > we move things to be deleted later on. >> > >> > Also if you can provide better translations for the rocks that would be >> > great. @rouletout <https://github.com/rouletout < https://github.com/rouletout>> and @nicHoch >> > <https://github.com/nicHoch <https://github.com/nicHoch>> are on the core team and both speak german, >> > but none of us are geologists :) >> > >> > — >> > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >> > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >> > <#1930# issuecomment-291133348 <#1930# issuecomment-291133348>>, >> > or mute the thread >> > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe- auth/AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_ 6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL>> >> > . >> > >> — >> You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub < #1930 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ ASRnSLwn0FHPc96jrp6Lzmy6csLxUKn3ks5rsRR5gaJpZM4Eq3uL>. >> —————————————————— Ulf Fuchslueger Head Business Development @ theCrag ***@***.*** ***@***.***');> <mailto: ***@***.*** ***@***.***');>> www.thecrag.com <http://www.thecrag.com/> https://www.thecrag.com/climber/rouletout <https://www.thecrag.com/ climber/rouletout> Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/thecragcom/?fref=ts> Follow us on Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecrag?trk=biz- companies-cym> —————————————————— — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1930 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4ggd5IDU0s2PQVUwterkYgWmLfNAks5rsX00gaJpZM4Eq3uL> .

[rouletout]

Hi Harald, ooh, sorry - danke für die Liste, werden wir so übernehmen! LG Ulf

[flugrost]

Hi Ulf nochmal, Es gibt in Thecrag noch eine "Artikel-Ebene", in der u.a. auch die "Hilfe" angesiedelt ist. Von der Struktur her ist das der normalen Gliederung ziemlich ähnlich. Man sollte dort daher den Inhalt von Rock (geology) https://www.thecrag. com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843 mit den Climbable Rocks http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/world/area/812165115 ganz gut unterbingen können. Dafür reicht mein weltweites Editorrecht aber nicht. Ich kann auch nicht sehen, wie das im inzelnen gegliedt ist und gehen könnte. Daher nur die Anregung. Ggf. könnte man dort auch irgendwo die Tabelle unterbringen: http://www.dav-karlsbad.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/climbrock-englisch.pdf und im Idealfall von den einzelnen Tags auf die entsprechenden Gesteine in der Tabelle verlinken!? So, jetzt reichts wieder. mfg Harald Am Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 schrieb rouletout :

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Hi Harald, ooh, sorry - danke für die Liste, werden wir so übernehmen! LG Ulf > On 04 Apr 2017, at 06:55, flugrost ***@***.***> wrote: > > Hi Ulf, > > da ist kein Anhang. > > Habe es als einfache Tabelle hier eingestellt: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTPGLh_yZpu2Ggrj9jWw isNif0MMexWhyi57lD9kEvg/edit?usp=sharing > > mfg > Harald > > Am Dienstag, 4. April 2017 schrieb rouletout : > > > Hallo Harald, > > > > ich bin’s nochmals. Im Anhang ein kleines CSV-File mit den Englischen Rock > > Types. Wäre es für dich möglich a) diese zu korrigieren, wo sie falsch sind > > (bitte eigene Spalte einfügen, so dass ich das sehe) und b) die korrekte > > Deutsche Übersetzung anzubringen? > > > > Das wäre super, ich kann dann alles im System korrigieren. > > > > > > Danke für deine Hilfe und beste Grüsse > > > > Ulf > > > > > > > On 03 Apr 2017, at 08:54, Ulf Fuchslueger ***@***.*** > > ***@***.***');>> wrote: > > > > > > Hallo Harald > > > > > > Ich bin Ulf vom theCrag team. Ich habe die meisten Übersetzungen für > > deutsch gemacht. Gerne nehme ich deine Korrekturen und Anregungen auf. > > Bitte sag mir auch, welche Vorschläge von dir 'ignoriert' wurden. > > > > > > Danke für deine Unterstützung, Grüsse > > > > > > Ulf > > > > > > > > > Am 03.04.2017 um 09:47 schrieb flugrost ***@***.*** > > ***@***.***');> <mailto: > > ***@***.*** > > ***@***.***');>>>: > > > > > >> Hi Brendan, > > >> > > >> Thanks for the anwer. > > >> > > >> Some are watching :) > > >> I suppose, I gave info and links earlier in time, but doesn't matter! > > >> > > >> Here it is again: > > >> http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843 < > > http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/test-area/area/837795843> > > >> > > >> best regards > > >> Harald > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Am Montag, 3. April 2017 schrieb Brendan Heywood : > > >> > > >> > hi @flugrost <https://github.com/flugrost < > > https://github.com/flugrost>>, can you provide a link to the > > >> > test area changes? Nobody is watching that area, it's essentially a > > place > > >> > we move things to be deleted later on. > > >> > > > >> > Also if you can provide better translations for the rocks that would > > be > > >> > great. @rouletout <https://github.com/rouletout < > > https://github.com/rouletout>> and @nicHoch > > >> > <https://github.com/nicHoch <https://github.com/nicHoch>> are on the > > core team and both speak german, > > >> > but none of us are geologists :) > > >> > > > >> > — > > >> > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > > >> > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > >> > <#1930# > > issuecomment-291133348 <https://github.com/theCrag/we bsite/issues/1930# > > issuecomment-291133348>>, > > >> > or mute the thread > > >> > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe- > > auth/AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL < > > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4tuwenmFDXKg3iY_ > > 6wX0wswbeqCmks5rsOtKgaJpZM4Eq3uL>> > > >> > . > > >> > > > >> — > > >> You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > > >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub < > > #1930 (comment) >, > > or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ > > ASRnSLwn0FHPc96jrp6Lzmy6csLxUKn3ks5rsRR5gaJpZM4Eq3uL>. > > >> > > > > > > —————————————————— > > Ulf Fuchslueger > > Head Business Development @ theCrag > > ***@***.*** ***@***.***');> <mailto: > > ***@***.*** ***@***.***');>> > > www.thecrag.com <http://www.thecrag.com/> > > > > https://www.thecrag.com/climber/rouletout <https://www.thecrag.com/ > > climber/rouletout> > > > > Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/thecragcom/?fref=ts> > > Follow us on Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/comp any/thecrag?trk=biz- > > companies-cym> > > —————————————————— > > > > > > > > > > > > — > > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > <#1930 (comment) >, > > or mute the thread > > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4ggd5 IDU0s2PQVUwterkYgWmLfNAks5rsX00gaJpZM4Eq3uL> > > . > > > — > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub < #1930 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notificati ons/unsubscribe-auth/ASRnSDP4gD8XGLNlX95Yxng9JCy6T9XPks5rsj2lgaJpZM4Eq3uL >. > —————————————————— Ulf Fuchslueger Head Business Development @ theCrag ***@***.*** ***@***.***> www.thecrag.com <http://www.thecrag.com/> https://www.thecrag.com/climber/rouletout <https://www.thecrag.com/climb er/rouletout> Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/thecragcom/?fref=ts> Follow us on Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/comp any/thecrag?trk=biz-companies-cym> —————————————————— — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1930 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMmw4kYGqKHopso2x3DV6ghDyPgfcOwMks5rsvDvgaJpZM4Eq3uL> .

[rouletout]

Hallo Harald, danke nochmals für die Infos. Die Liste nehmen wir demnächst auf. Bzgl. der Artikel ist mir nicht klar, wie es bzgl. Copyright steht - sind die von dir? Wir können die sonst so nicht einfach übernehmen. Das gleiche gilt für die Tabelle vom DAV. Auch hier bräuchten wir eine explizite Genehmigung. Könntest du da anfragen bzw. den Kontakt herstellen? Danke und LG Ulf

[flugrost]

Hi Ulf,

da das Ganze komplett öffentlich ist, #1930 antworte ich hier nur noch sehr beschränkt und nur der Vollständigkeit halber (gerade auch wegen der Öffentlichkeit!). Welcher Artikel?? Welche "DAV-Tabelle"???? Manchmal frage ich mich, ob das, was geschrieben wird, auch gelesen wird :) !? Ich wüßte jetzt nicht, auf welchen Artikel Du Dich beziehen solltest, wenn nicht auf MEINEN. Der ist auch weder abgeschrieben, noch auf Basis von Wikipedia-Info zusammengestellt. Eher ist es umgekehrt: ein paar Infos bei Wiki sind auch von mir. Ich bin selbst diplomierter Fachmann :) Ich brauche keine Sekundärliteratur oder Wikipedia oder den DAV als "Quellen". Was meinst Du mit "DAV-Tabelle" und wie kommst Du darauf? Hier gilt Gleiches: Ich beziehe mich bei Infos nicht auf den DAV. Die Tabelle ist nicht vom DAV. Der hat nichts annähernd Vergleichbares! Das ist weltweit neu! Die Tabelle ist Teil meines Artikels und von mir zusammengestellt. Dort, wo in der Tabelle auf Klettergebiete oder Kletterouten in Thecrag verlinkt wird, ist die Info in Thecrag ebenfalls meist von mir (zumindest zu den Gesteinen, ggf. sind Gebiet/Route auch genau zu dem Zweck des Beispiels komplett von mir recherchiert und in Thecrag aufgenommen. Auch das steht im Artikel!) Der Artikel mit Tabelle oder die Tabelle ist nicht auf einer "DAV-Seite", sondern auf der eigenständigen Seite meiner DAV-Sektion. Ich habe ihn dafür gemacht und dort eingestellt. Mittlerweile ist er bei einer Google-Suche nach Klettern + Gestein der erste Treffer. Der Artikel ist namentlich als meiner ausgewiesen und ich habe auch keine Rechte daran an den DAV oder eine DAV-Sektion abgegeben. Da die Info öffentlich ist, kann natürlich darauf verlinkt werden. Ansonsten erwarte ich ordnungsgemäße Zitieren und Quellenangabe. Weitergehender Einbau und sonstige Verwendung müssen natürlich mit mir abgesprochen werden - aber Thecrag habe ich es ja angeboten und Ihr seid mit mir im Gespräch!? Das reicht hier. mfg Harald

[flugrost]

P.S.: mit der Veröffentlichung und der guten Google-Platzierung ist der primäre Zweck schon erreicht: die Info ist zugänglich. Wer sucht, der findet.

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[rouletout]

I close this one - rock types are being updated, article discussion is moved to private