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建議增加雙行夾注 #109
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Link to JLReq: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#inline_cutting_note Related discussions: |
由于是行内的处理,这部分应放到第三章,因此建议新建「3.4 行内夹注」、然后目前 3.4 其后标题顺延。 |
撰写草案:
(需要另外配图) |
這個現在有進展了嗎? |
关于 #109 (comment) 有几点需要讨论的: 行内夹注、单行夹注和双行夹注的英译我想到的几种方案如下,看看大家的意见: 第一种方案是参考日文中的「割注」,使用warichū、inline cutting note、split annotation或者gezhu之类的翻译。但wari、cutting、split、ge感觉有把一行分成两行的意思,只适用于「双行夹注」。 第二种方案是用jiazhu(类似于CJK对禁则的翻译:jìnzé/kinsoku/geumchik)。 第三种方案是自己造一个词,如“in-text note/commentary”等。 如果还有其他方案,欢迎评论。 其他问题
这张图中的双行夹注并没有符合这一点,是什么原因?
关于这句话,因为目前文中没有提到「避头尾」一词,我们可以改为「行首行尾禁则」,或者在3.1.4节中添加有关「避头尾」的描述。 另外,需要补充双行夹注的图片,其他图片也需要注解文字( |
@eisoch 提供的横排夹注的图: |
warichū 在平面設計專指雙行夾注,的確不可以指其他 「夾注」 直譯我會傾向用 inline annotation;「行內夾注」 的做法英文排版也有,但據我理解沒有特別名稱 |
日文排版需求中似未提及單行夾註。 原則上單行夾註與雙行夾註並無實質性區別,前者的廣泛採用和中國排版者對現代排版技術的妥協有關。兩者希望得到一種統一的名稱,較爲便宜。 |
依據哂蟹齋,偏單行小字分兩種:一種實屬于正文,你所舉詞曲之襯字是也.一種是註,不屬于正文,你所舉詞律聲韻小字是也。見〬哂蟹齋書籍版式一覽。 |
其他类似单行夹注或者是可能有误会的情况列举如下: 1、段玉裁、王念孙等用小型汉字表示句读。这种情况本质上属于标点,但UTC和WG2很难直接接纳这样的标点。这有可能也适合用夹注的逻辑来处理。类似的情况也存在于《碣石调·幽兰》,使用单行的“一句”等来表示句读。可参考IRGN2645中关于古琴文字谱《碣石调·幽兰》的介绍,该文档也做了减字谱旁字(小字)和双行夹注的比较。 |
應 @eisoch 邀報告,簡牘中常見橫向分割任意行數的樣式,不知道是否與夾注有關。本人由於匆忙暫時不能參與議論,只貼幾張圖作爲示意。
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Based on discussion during the CLReq call on 17 Nov, the team feels that the term "inline annotation" would be appropriate instead of using "warichū" |
I have no problem with choosing a non-Japanese word for 'warichu', but calling it 'inline annotation' rather presupposes that the warichu approach is the only approach used for inline annotations. Is that the case? If not, how would one distinguish between the warichu approach and another approach to inline annotations? |
One of the reasons we don't use the word 'warichu' is that there are two forms of inline annotations, and 'warichu' can only indicate the double-line form, not the single-line form (see #109 (comment) ). |
@eisoch 提供的夹注中嵌套夹注的图: |
Draft translation for #109 (comment) 3.4 行内夹注 | Inline annotations 3.4.1 行内夹注的使用 | Usage of inline annotations
Inline annotations refer to the explanatory text which is inserted directly after the relevant words in the text. There are two types of inline annotations. When laid out in a single line, they are referred to as "single-line annotations". When laid out in two lines, they are referred to as "double-line annotations". Both can be used when text is laid out horizontally or vertically. As inline annotations are a straightfoward way to explain words and phrases directly in the text, it is commonly seen in commentary for classical books, traditional Chinese medicine, screenplays and reference books. 3.4.2 行内夹注的字号与行距 | Font size and line spacing for inline annotations
The font size of the inline annotations must be smaller than the font size of the text. Some common practices include: when using Size 5 (10.5pt) for text, use Size 6 (8pt) for annotations; when using Size Small 4 (12pt) for text, use Size Small 5 (9pt) for annotations; when using Size Small 5 (9pt) for text, use Size 7 (6pt) for annotations. For single-line annotations, when the main text uses Size 5, Size Small 5 (9pt) is often used for annotations.
Punctuation for inline annotations are handled similarly to that of the text. The punctuation prohibition rules for line start and line end must be the same for both text and annotations. If punctuation marks are prohibited from appearing at the line end for text, then it must be prohibited from appearing at the line end for the annotations.
Inline annotations can either be set solid with the text or with added spacing, or with type A brackets, i.e. parentheses, at the start and end of the annotation. The parentheses themselves are subject to punctuation width adjustment. Parentheses used for double-line annotations should be equal to the height of both the annotations, and usually of half-width.
Relationship between inline annotations and text:
Line-spacing within inline annotations: 3.4.3 夹注需要跨越正文换行位置时的处理 | Handling inline annotations that exceed the break point of the text
Depending on where the inline annotation is inserted, and the length of the inline annotation, there might be cases where the inline annotation exceeds the break point of the text. In such scenario, please refer to the order and length as shown in the figure. Note: I realised that the JLReq uses " Inline Cutting Note" (https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#inline_cutting_note) |
雙行夾注常見于中文典籍,是注釋之標準格式,幾乎所有古書皆有雙行夾注。雙行夾注適合中文書,正文與注釋字體劃然不紊,一目瞭然。
正文通常用正方字,筆畫較粗;而雙行夾注文字較瘦長。明、清書主流樣式是注文與正文等高。民國以後使用漸少。今新印之書中,僅古籍沿用之。
此在 w3c 日文排版草案中稱「割注」。
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