[css-grid-3] Masonry - align-tracks / justify-tracks potentially not desirable for accessibility. #8207
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The full IRC log of that discussion<fantasai> iank_: Mats's spec for Masonry had a feature align-tracks/justify-tracks which allowed you to align individual tracks<fantasai> iank_: personally I haven't seen developers ask for this <fantasai> iank_: and it leads to some accessibility problems <fantasai> iank_: if you look at the examples and try to count from 1 - 33, you're jumping all over <fantasai> iank_: also a bunch of issues wrt spanning items <fantasai> iank_: so the proposal is to drop this sub-feature <fantasai> fantasai: We're OK with dropping. If it seems that we need to do something like this in the future, we can explore it then <fantasai> dholbert: Seems fine to me, too <fantasai> astearns: proposal is to drop align-tracks/justify-tracks from Masonry spec <fantasai> astearns: objections? <fantasai> RESOLVED: Drop align-tracks, justify-tracks from Masonry spec |
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align-tracks and justify-tracks were removed from the Masonry spec at the CSSWG meeting on Oct 4th 2023. Removing the related test cases to align with the spec. w3c/csswg-drafts#8207 (comment)
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…Test Cases, a=testonly Automatic update from web-platform-tests Remove Masonry Align and Justify Tracks Test Cases (#42365) align-tracks and justify-tracks were removed from the Masonry spec at the CSSWG meeting on Oct 4th 2023. Removing the related test cases to align with the spec. w3c/csswg-drafts#8207 (comment) -- wpt-commits: 2b9a3cb6062fb825e99c62d91599c1774fc2e041 wpt-pr: 42365
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This feature of css-grid-3 allows developers to align tracks individually. However this creates a disconnect pretty quickly with the "visual order" and the "box order" of the document.
Example 9 in the spec demonstrates this well:
https://drafts.csswg.org/css-grid-3/#masonry-axis-alignment
The tab order for above would be 1,2,3,4... etc. However the visual order for that example definitely not that :).
The use-cases I've seen here typically align masonry axis tracks together rather than individually.
Something to lean on here might be something similar to how flexbox works in that you can start the masonry algorithm for the "end" side, instead of the "start" (e.g. row-reverse and friends).
Note this problem is different to alignment on individual grid/flex items, as for those layout modes alignment happens within a line/track, and the visual order still matches the box order.
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