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Requirement to publish formal objections should include a timeline #735

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jyasskin opened this issue Apr 24, 2023 · 3 comments
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Requirement to publish formal objections should include a timeline #735

jyasskin opened this issue Apr 24, 2023 · 3 comments
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Closed: Accepted The issue has been addressed, though not necessarily based on the initial suggestion Director-free: FO/Council Issues realted to the W3C Council and Formal Objection Handling
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https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/Drafts/snapshots/2023-04#registering-objections says

A record of each Formal Objection against a decision regarding a publicly-available document must be made publicly available

It would be good to describe when the record must be made public. This ambiguity caused a problem with the formal objections to the DID recommendation, when @tantek posted Mozilla's objection publicly, while we left Google's responses only member-visible. The Team decided to make the record public much later than I'd expected, which meant that @tantek and Mozilla took more of the blame than they should have.

This doesn't need to be fixed for Process 2023.

@fantasai fantasai added this to the Deferred milestone May 11, 2023
@plehegar plehegar added the Director-free: FO/Council Issues realted to the W3C Council and Formal Objection Handling label Sep 26, 2023
@plehegar plehegar modified the milestones: Deferred, P2024 Sep 27, 2023
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The Revising W3C Process CG just discussed #735.

The full IRC log of that discussion <plh> subtopic: #735
<plh> plh: 2 extremes: once the AC review is closed, we need to publish the FO. OR once the Council publishes its report
<plh> florian: somewhere in between
<plh> fantasai: you don't need to publish right away, but don't wait
<joshco> Github: https://github.com//issues/735
<joshco> 1 min left
<plh> Florian: I agree with Jeffrey that there is a problem, but not sure how to fix
<plh> fantasai: we need to draft specific wording "soon after the close of AC review" or something like that.
<plh> ... having it in the process sets the proper expectation
<plh> [we need editors to propose a pull request]

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Proposed some wording at #808 ; basically adding “Upon registration with the Team” to the publication requirement.

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fantasai commented Dec 12, 2023

(Note to the Team, it's not required to be announced, just available.)

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Co-authored-by: Florian Rivoal <git@florian.rivoal.net>
@frivoal frivoal added Closed: Accepted The issue has been addressed, though not necessarily based on the initial suggestion and removed Agenda+ Marks issues that are ready for discussion on the call Needs proposed PR labels Jan 24, 2024
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plehegar added a commit to w3c/Guide that referenced this issue Apr 25, 2024
Address w3c/w3process#735 
 following w3c/w3process#808

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Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
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